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Old 23-07-2024, 15:16   #16
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Re: US Election 2024ort defending Trum-…

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I'll also make it clear, my position hasn't changed.

That I really don't care that much, but just for entertainment value I think it would be hilarious if Trump won, just to see everybody lose their minds over it.
For someone who "don’t care that much", you spend a lot of time and effort defending Trump…

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Old 23-07-2024, 15:39   #17
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Re: US Election 2024

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The World becomes a much a more unstable place, with a dictator given a free hand, to walk through Europe. Hilariously entertaining...
We’ve already had four years of Trump, the world didn’t end………..it was arguably safer.

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Yeah, it is pretty depressing to know that there are people who want such a person in power just for kicks. Pretty moronic in my opinion. To support someone because you like their policies and respect the candidate's values is one thing, however to support someone because you just want to wind people up is another.
I’m in the position of having no influence whatsoever on the presidential race, so I’m just indulging myself.

Thinking about it, a Harris presidency might be even funnier.

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For someone who "don’t care that much", you spend a lot of time and effort defending Trump…

Well, there has to be a dissenting voice against those with TDS on here. You only have to look a Mr K’s post to see that.
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Old 23-07-2024, 15:54   #18
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Re: US Election 2024

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I look forward to your even-handed critique of both nominees/candidates…
Where I think it adds value, yes. But I’ve said before tens of millions of people voted for Trump unhinged in 2016 when he won and 2020 when he lost.

I don’t think the average voter who is even considering voting for him views the Stormy Daniels or classified documents cases as things. Everyone saw January 6th with their own eyes and I doubt court cases there will move the dial either any more than witnessing it on television at the time.

It’s certainly possible I’ll have no, or limited, criticism of Harris at all. Certainly not her ability to do the job as I had with Biden. Her policies are certainly going to be less objectionable than the Repulican ticket. Where the campaign mis-steps it might be worthy of comment but I’m certainly rooting for her. It’s an uphill task that will require laser focus on the issues that matter, those that will move the dial, and it shouldn’t get distracted by those that don’t/won’t.

Her first step, intentionally or otherwise, seems to be snubbing Netanyahu by not chairing the joint session of Congress. That’s a win for me.
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Old 23-07-2024, 16:41   #19
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Re: US Election 2024

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I want to be clear from page 1 of the thread:

I want Harris to win
I want the Democratic nominee, if it’s not Harris (unlikely), to win.
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Re: US Election 2024

I don't believe that my vote will change anything, differently not a swing state .so in the past I tended to vote for a n other . Only wish that Michelle had been put forward, don't think that Harris will carry the swing states. At the moment my money would be on Trump. Good for USA worrying for the rest of the world. Who would have guessed that Biden would get covid and quit , or yes I did
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Re: US Election 2024

Your vote ?
You can vote in US elections ?
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Re: US Election 2024

Biden does seem to have chosen the perfect time to step aside for Harris, right at the end of the Republican convention, with Trump’s running mate locked in, right at the moment the polls would have been expected to reward Trump with an uptick in support … but now Reuters/Ipsos is showing a 2pt lead for Harris.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/har...ds-2024-07-23/
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Re: US Election 2024

We'll see how her polling does over the next few weeks, especially when she selects her VP.

But what I think she does do is give people who don't want Trump but couldn't vote for Biden an alternative so you might see some wavering voters come back to the Democrats. I still think Trump will be the favourite but now it's not as certain as it seems. To give some context to those poll numbers I think it's the first time Trump hasn't led in the polling against the presumed Democratic nominee for a year. Harris can hold proper rallies, she won't look mentally out of it for the debate and voters won't be concerned about her mental capability. The change in candidate has also led to the biggest surge in donations even apparently. So the Dems have money again.

The risk is that any polling bounce is soft, powered by a relief it's not Biden, and will collapse.

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Old 24-07-2024, 09:07   #24
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Re: US Election 2024

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Biden does seem to have chosen the perfect time to step aside for Harris, right at the end of the Republican convention, with Trump’s running mate locked in, right at the moment the polls would have been expected to reward Trump with an uptick in support … but now Reuters/Ipsos is showing a 2pt lead for Harris.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/har...ds-2024-07-23/
No doubt delayed to not allow any alternative other than "Hobson's choice" of Harris. Democracy not allowed in the Democrat party?
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No doubt delayed to not allow any alternative other than "Hobson's choice" of Harris. Democracy not allowed in the Democrat party?
Anyone had the opportunity to say they’d run against her on Monday morning. Nobody did.

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The risk is that any polling bounce is soft, powered by a relief it's not Biden, and will collapse.
I think the bounces for the assassination attempt, RNC, Biden bowing out and the DNC will all be quite weak and it’ll be a statistical dead heat in the polls into September.
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Re: US Election 2024

Trump won't debate her He knows he'll be on to a loser. . His mental decline will become even more apparent against a functioning opponent. He's already preparing the retreat...
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Former President Trump is pushing for the second presidential debate to be hosted by a network other than ABC, accusing it of bias against him as he shifts his attacks to Vice President Harris ahead of November.

“ABC Fake News is such a joke, among the absolute WORST in the business,”
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No doubt delayed to not allow any alternative other than "Hobson's choice" of Harris. Democracy not allowed in the Democrat party?
The DNC Convention isn’t until the 19th of August - not sure what your point is?
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The DNC Convention isn’t until the 19th of August - not sure what your point is?
Takes time to build a campaign and get the donations in place. Why else has the inevitable been delayed? Would Harris have been the choice if any campaign started a year ago?
No votes have been cast for her and nobody else is allowed to stand.
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Re: US Election 2024

At least she's a younger candidate..too many old men up until now..
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Re: US Election 2024

Interesting prediction from Gerald Ford on getting the first Female President:

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