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				By what metric? 
 
I understood he was ahead on most polls? 
			
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 Elections are a choice so he is more popular than Biden, especially in the swing states, but his ratings are poor.  https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/
Harris is doing better than Biden against Trump. Trump has a 1.9-point lead over Harris but a 3-point lead over Biden.  https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris 
It's a very divided electorate. It's probably going to be close no matter what. Like the last few elections, it will come down to small margins in the key swing states.  
 
Obviously, we're now going to find out but the Democrats think there is at least a chance she can gain some voters back whereas I think everyone already decided that Biden cannot do the job.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-07-2024, 23:39
			
			
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			Polling has some "shocks" to the system to work in. The assassination attempt, the RNC, Biden not standing, the upcoming Democratic nomination and the DNC. 
 
I think the polls are small enough there's a lot within the margin of error. Polling tends to get better closer to the election, plus get less undecideds. 
 
I wonder if jostling for the VP slot under Harris is more coveted than the top of the ticket. Get a national profile for 2028.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-07-2024, 00:15
			
			
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				Then it’s a Trump landslide 
 
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By what metric? 
 
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 Arguably because of the Dems self immolating over the past couple of weeks.  The polls will need a few weeks to settle down.  Trump could still win, but I can’t see it being a landslide.
  
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				I can really see the deep south voting for his current VP, a Black Woman. 
			
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 None of the Deep South states are swing states.  Even Florida, which is winnable by dems under some circumstances, won’t go Dem while Trump has his effective HQ there.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-07-2024, 09:21
			
			
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				  Even Florida, which is winnable by dems under some circumstances, . 
			
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 Back in the days of the “hanging chad”. Florida was indeed one of the most important swing states.
 
But under the governance of De Santis, I very much doubt that’s the case anymore, certainly not in this election.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-07-2024, 09:27
			
			
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			the worrying thing is Biden still has 6 months  to go and  it's clear he can't do the job,he should step down as president and let the VP take over,but i doubt that will happen.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-07-2024, 10:24
			
			
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				the worrying thing is Biden still has 6 months  to go and  it's clear he can't do the job,he should step down as president and let the VP take over,but i doubt that will happen. 
			
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 You won’t see very much of him between now and November.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-07-2024, 10:38
			
			
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				the worrying thing is Biden still has 6 months  to go and  it's clear he can't do the job,he should step down as president and let the VP take over,but i doubt that will happen. 
			
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 I'd rather have someone who can't do the job but is gone in a few months than someone who can't do the job and is there for 4 years.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			22-07-2024, 10:44
			
			
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				I'd rather have someone who can't do the job but is gone in a few months than someone who can't do the job and is there for 4 years. 
			
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If Trump is elected, he will also be older than when Biden started his Presidency.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Nancy Pelosi is even older and nobody is questioning her role in pressuring him to stand down and design the process for the next Democratic nominee (and potentially next President).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			we now have a thread dedicated to discussing the 2024 US election which will be between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.  Please now use this thread for discussing Biden and the last 6 months of his presidency. 
 
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