Smart Meters and Tariffs

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Err yes it does, it has the data broken down into 30min bins which encodes your daily habits. A traditional meter reading once a money cannot do that.

This is transmitted to the company and stored in a database which is next* to your home address.

*Not literally "next to" but clearly in the system.

The smart meter doesn't contain that dat. Just your usage. It's useless to anyone.

Your name and address are stored with your bank too. Are you concerned about them having that as well as what you spend??

Seriously!!

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Err yes it does, it has the data broken down into 30min bins which encodes your daily habits. A traditional meter reading once a money cannot do that.

This is transmitted to the company and stored in a database which is next* to your home address.

*Not literally "next to" but clearly in the system.

You have a choice of how often it transmits information.

[heero_yuy]

Our electricity one has never worked. The home display packed up within hours.
The main unit has A and B buttons and an LCD display. I can eventually find the "Imported KWH value" to send in as the remote reporting has never worked. (Signal reported as -127db) But it's strange: Every bit of kit I have you can find the documentation, circuits etc on the net but for this meter?

Not a trace, I can find the Chinese OEM outline data, the FCC certification, the CE certification but a description of the buttons and menus? Nothing!

Why is this such a secret? EDF should be advising the CIA/KGB etc on secrecy.

OVO want us to have a smart gas meter. Not a chance.

Originally Posted by downquark1

Err yes it does, it has the data broken down into 30min bins which encodes your daily habits. A traditional meter reading once a money cannot do that.

This is transmitted to the company and stored in a database which is next* to your home address.

Time to get yourself that tin foil hat, the nonsense you seem to be spouting is almost amusing to watch.

Aside from the fact the data is for your house (not you) - what personal habits does it 'encode' ?
It has no knowledge of what you are doing, only the amount of electricity or gas you are using, your porn habbit is safe.

"Its stored in a database" ? Seriously ?
Clearly this comes as a shock, but traditional meter readings are stored in the same database.
They also track useage, just over longer time intevals, thats kinda the whole purpose of meters.

[downquark1]

If you gave me the data I could easily make a list of addresses of people rich enough to own electric cars and who are out of the house between 9am and 5pm.

I could do that simply by watching them, far easier.

If I gave you all their bank details you could steal money from them.
If the sun were bigger we would all burn up, what exactly is your point ?

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Paul

I could do that simply by watching them, far easier.

If I gave you all their bank details you could steal money from them.
If the sun were bigger we would all burn up, what exactly is your point ?

You can't watch millions of people at once to pick out the best ones . But I'm not arguing any more, if you don't see the point now you won't.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by downquark1

If you gave me the data I could easily make a list of addresses of people rich enough to own electric cars and who are out of the house between 9am and 5pm.

How can you detect electric cars, yes i have a EV but i also use a hell of a lot of electric including the following
1 x electric shower that draws 11Kw that's more than the 7 Kw my charger uses. An electric oven that at full usage with both ovens going draws 6.2 kw. 2 x high spec gaming pc and one of them draws 1 kw at full rate. 1 x washing machine 1 x dryer. To give you an idea of electric usage my electric bill can hit over £300 a month however most of that is not the EV as my average cost per day in electric from home to work and back is £2.80

Last thing i have friends with EV who would not say they are rich, there cars like mine are on lease via salary sacrifice.

Finally one of the reasons the Government are looking at road charging is because they admit they cannot work out a way to tax people for charging there car at home so maybe you could give them some advice ?

I am not rich by any measure, i just work hard for my money

Your phone spies on you, if you use windows or mac it spies on you ( that's why i use Linux), if you have a points card it spies on you. If you drive a car the anpr system spies on you. Your ISP knows a lot of what you do and when you do it, I could go on but i think you get the drift

Last point a training video for you is below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD7zTSaiigg

Originally Posted by downquark1

You can't watch millions of people at once to pick out the best ones . But I'm not arguing any more, if you don't see the point now you won't.

Nor can you get the data from "millions of people at once".
You are very wise to bow out now before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Paul

Nor can you get the data from "millions of people at once".
You are very wise to bow out now before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

Yes you can, do you have any idea how data security works? if octopus energy has a data breach that is 7.7 million households.

A much better idea than you apparently.

Aside from "if" yet again, it also [again] has nothing to do with actual smart meters.
Thats point has already been covered several times now, but still you cling to it. Cracking.
Please do keep going, your paranoia is really starting to show now, I cant wait for the next theory.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Itshim

You have a choice of how often it transmits information.

If you want to be on a smart tariff it needs to be set at 30mins.

As usual Dude111 has come in and ruined a thread with his bollox, the guys got a screw loose.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

If you want to be on a smart tariff it needs to be set at 30mins.

As usual Dude111 has come in and ruined a thread with his bollox, the guys got a screw loose.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by downquark1

If you gave me the data I could easily make a list of addresses of people rich enough to own electric cars and who are out of the house between 9am and 5pm.

If my aunty had balls she’d be me uncle*




*may not be true these days, I can’t keep up, too old

[jfman]

How would you know they even have anything worth stealing?