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			What the heck is going on on the election 2024 program the audio is way out of sync
		 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Labour do have a bit of a habit of bringing down waiting lists after a Tory government… |  Blair’s Westminster Labour government absolutely did that. Welsh Labour in the Senedd … not so much.
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			Unite refuses to endorse Labour party’s election manifesto
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			Sunak on TV apologising for leaving the D Day commemorations early, then trying to make out that any further discussion of this decision would be disrespectful to veterans and those that lost their lives because it would be "politicising" the commemorations.
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		|  08-06-2024, 10:12 | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Blair’s Westminster Labour government absolutely did that. Welsh Labour in the Senedd … not so much. |  True obviously but given my natural disdain and suspicion of Tories (even by association) I’d rather take a gamble on things possibly staying the same, potentially getting slightly worse with the current lot than have Tories in and virtually guaranteeing the latter on a grand scale.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  True obviously but given my natural disdain and suspicion of Tories (even by association) I’d rather take a gamble on things possibly staying the same, potentially getting slightly worse with the current lot than have Tories in and virtually guaranteeing the latter on a grand scale. |  Can’t believe I’m saying this but what about the Lib Dems?  I can understand why you’d dismiss the plaidos out of hand but there are other alternatives.  The problem with just sticking with one party over the very long term is that they get complacent, which tends to make them even worse.
 
I think Wales is in a bit of a bind, and to be brutally honest I think the underlying problem is that the Senedd and government have got too much legislative/executive power.
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		|  08-06-2024, 12:58 | #53 |  
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 I think Wales is in a bit of a bind, and to be brutally honest I think the underlying problem is that the Senedd and government have got too much legislative/executive power.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  I'm afraid if you don't want Sir Keir as your PM, you'll have to move to another country in July.   |  
Or do what the Remainers did and demand another vote?
		 
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		|  08-06-2024, 20:56 | #55 |  
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			Difference being Remainers don’t get another crack 4 or 5 years later.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Russ  Difference being Remainers don’t get another crack 4 or 5 years later. |  He's been told that before, but doesn't quite  
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Another referendum on Europe at some point, is a certainty.   Problem is we'll get a much worse deal than we had, but have to take it. Beggars can't be choosers.
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					Originally Posted by Hom3r  Or do what the Remainers did and demand another vote? |  In both situations, I don't think the result would/will be any different. Do you?
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		|  09-06-2024, 13:01 | #59 |  
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			Classy…   
What the Labour candidate was doing in France…
  
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