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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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tbf, the covering up parts were - that involved false accounting, and the other acts were the precursors to the criminal acts, which is the relevancy…
From the charge sheet
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That’s why I said “in and of themselves” and excluded from my bit in bold the actual crime.
Trump won’t be the first, or last, American politician of questionable conduct paying off women (or men) right, left and centre. It’s quite right that he, and his supporters, question why he is seemingly held to a higher standard for overtly political reasons. This trial wouldn’t see the light of day if it wasn’t led by Democrats in an election year attacking the Republicans presumptive nominee.
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01-06-2024, 14:07
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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That’s why I said “in and of themselves” and excluded from my bit in bold the actual crime.
Trump won’t be the first, or last, American politician of questionable conduct paying off women (or men) right, left and centre. It’s quite right that he, and his supporters, question why he is seemingly held to a higher standard for overtly political reasons. This trial wouldn’t see the light of day if it wasn’t led by Democrats in an election year attacking the Republicans presumptive nominee.
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Seems to be working in his favour, be careful what you wish for 
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01-06-2024, 14:51
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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That’s why I said “in and of themselves” and excluded from my bit in bold the actual crime.
Trump won’t be the first, or last, American politician of questionable conduct paying off women (or men) right, left and centre. It’s quite right that he, and his supporters, question why he is seemingly held to a higher standard for overtly political reasons. This trial wouldn’t see the light of day if it wasn’t led by Democrats in an election year attacking the Republicans presumptive nominee.
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Keep on sharing Putin’s talking points like a good little vatnik…
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01-06-2024, 16:06
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Keep on sharing Putin’s talking points like a good little vatnik…
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I’ve not heard anything from Putin on this matter - I’m not following it closely - but the obvious hypocrisy exists within an American political class that idolised the drunk Ted Kennedy who left a woman for dead.
Sure - it’s whataboutery. In a two horse race election “what about the other guy/team?” will naturally be pursued. The Democrats are absolutely terrified Trump makes it onto the ballot, and paying off a porn star (with his own money?) for having sex with her is unlikely to move the dial significantly.
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01-06-2024, 17:08
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
Idolised ? It killed his chance of ever being president.
Still, good to know your view of America is based on an incident 55 years ago ...
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01-06-2024, 17:25
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Idolised ? It killed his chance of ever being president.
Still, good to know your view of America is based on an incident 55 years ago ...
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It didn’t stop him giving it his best shot in 1980, nor continuing to run for Senate. My views of America stem from more than one single incident and I generally have contempt for their politicians on both sides.
No skin off my nose if the Don goes to jail, I’m only offering my opinion on how I see this part of the “stop him at all costs because Biden is useless” escapade playing out.
Holding Trump to higher standards because he’s Donald Trump will only end badly at the ballot box. I suspect they know this, and we will see ever increasingly desperate measures to keep him off.
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01-06-2024, 17:59
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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It didn’t stop him giving it his best shot in 1980, nor continuing to run for Senate. My views of America stem from more than one single incident and I generally have contempt for their politicians on both sides.
No skin off my nose if the Don goes to jail, I’m only offering my opinion on how I see this part of the “stop him at all costs because Biden is useless” escapade playing out.
Holding Trump to higher standards because he’s Donald Trump will only end badly at the ballot box. I suspect they know this, and we will see ever increasingly desperate measures to keep him off.
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The only hope is Biden falling by the wayside. The only democratic that Trump could beat 
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01-06-2024, 19:27
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
The guy radiates evil, in the same way Putin does. Why evangelicals love him is a mystery.
Lock him up and make the world a safer place.
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01-06-2024, 20:13
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
At least Trump has finally won a popular vote 
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01-06-2024, 21:27
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
I read somewhere that if jailed there could be riots.
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01-06-2024, 22:52
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He says the trial is Rigged..... Does anyone think it will be appealed??
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01-06-2024, 23:07
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
They will attempt an appeal but no chance it's going to go anywhere.
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02-06-2024, 09:09
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I’ve not heard anything from Putin on this matter - I’m not following it closely - but the obvious hypocrisy exists within an American political class that idolised the drunk Ted Kennedy who left a woman for dead.
Sure - it’s whataboutery. In a two horse race election “what about the other guy/team?” will naturally be pursued. The Democrats are absolutely terrified Trump makes it onto the ballot, and paying off a porn star (with his own money?) for having sex with her is unlikely to move the dial significantly.
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Got to love a good Freudian Slip…
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02-06-2024, 09:43
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I read somewhere that if jailed there could be riots.
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Yes, probably - by the Gravy Seals, and Meal Team Six… 
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02-06-2024, 17:38
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Yes, probably - by the Gravy Seals, and Meal Team Six…
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Doesn't mean they couldn't kill someone
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