UK Energy Prices

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Taf

We have mains gas water heating. Can anyone spot when the missus broke her arm, and it was down to me to do the washing up all the time since?

So you wash up in cold water?

I don't really understand the annual usage in kWh on the graph, is it monthly if so that seems really low.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

So you wash up in cold water?

I don't really understand the annual usage in kWh on the graph, is it monthly if so that seems really low.

I wash and hot rinse as the sink fills, whereas the missus used to fill the sink, then wash, then draw more hot water to rinse.

The graph shows the average weekly use over the year (total annual use divided by 52). Each "step" is a full year.

And yes, our gas usage (in kwh) is very low. New efficient boiler, TRVs, fully insulated well beyond min specs, and restricted heating hours at a lower temperature than most homes.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Taf

I wash and hot rinse as the sink fills, whereas the missus used to fill the sink, then wash, then draw more hot water to rinse.

The graph shows the average weekly use over the year (total annual use divided by 52). Each "step" is a full year.

And yes, our gas usage (in kwh) is very low. New efficient boiler, TRVs, fully insulated well beyond min specs, and restricted heating hours at a lower temperature than most homes.

Are you saying you only use 80kWh of Electricity a month, isn't that ridiculously low too? I use far more with only 1 person currently in the house and half the time I'm at work and my February usage is only 129kWh and I don't think that is much at all.

What do other people use monthly who frequent this thread?

Edit - I see it's your weekly usage so ignore the above.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Are you saying you only use 80kWh of Electricity a month, isn't that ridiculously low too? I use far more with only 1 person currently in the house and half the time I'm at work and my February usage is only 129kWh and I don't think that is much at all.

What do other people use monthly who frequent this thread?

Edit - I see it's your weekly usage so ignore the above.

250 KWH is but there is a powerful PC on all day
Mind you I would have thought standard cooking, washing and refrigeration would run to a good few KWH per month

I notice the new prices for October are now available.

[ From Octoprice ]

Oct 2024 Caps
East Midlands

Electricity
Unit Rate: 21.65p to 23.77p
Standing Charge: 56.00p to 56.90p

Gas
Unit Rate: 5.34p to 6.42p
Standing Charge: 31.11p to 36.32p

These are the Standard Rate prices you would pay on Octopus (and others, I presume).
Its going to be interesting to see how Octo's Tracker & Agile prices stack up once we get to October.

[Taf]

Octopus Energy is stepping in to offer state pensioners who've lost the £300 Winter Fuel Payments up to £200 each. Pensioners with Octopus Energy can apply for discretionary energy bill credits of £50, £100 and £200 after the new Labour Party government axed the payouts for anybody.

The energy firm has decided to extend its £30m Octo Assist fund to help those pensioners who need it most. The company will now allow lower income pension households who don't receive pension credit to claim new assistance from the fund.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...-1958-29917333

[Taf]

Email from Scottish Power:

"From 1st October, the price you pay per unit of energy will increase as the cost to buy and transport energy has increased.

We've worked out you're likely to pay £143 more per year. That's made up of £50 more per year for gas and £93 more per year for electricity - if you use the same amount of energy as you did over the last year."

But when I used their DD calculator it says I should pay £140 per month!! Almost double the DD I pay now!!

Are they your cheapest supplier? I’d be surprised if any of the big legacy providers are offering best value.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Chris

Are they your cheapest supplier? I’d be surprised if any of the big legacy providers are offering best value.

I did the online comparisons, and none were cheaper at all.

Originally Posted by Taf

We've worked out you're likely to pay £143 more per year.

The cap itself has gone up £149, so apparently you use fractionally less than the "average".

There dont seem many good fixed deals around atm, they are the same, or worse, than the actual cap (and generally have early leaving penalties as well).

[Hom3r]

What annoys me is I don't use gas, but I have a connected gas meter in my side shed, it hasn't been used for over 10 years, yet I still have to pay a standing charge of 31p a day.

Originally Posted by Hom3r

What annoys me is I don't use gas, but I have a connected gas meter in my side shed, it hasn't been used for over 10 years, yet I still have to pay a standing charge of 31p a day.

At over £100 per year just to have it sitting there, why haven’t you arranged to have it cut off?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

What annoys me is I don't use gas, but I have a connected gas meter in my side shed, it hasn't been used for over 10 years, yet I still have to pay a standing charge of 31p a day.

The standing charge for electricity has more than doubled since 2021 iirc and it stinks, as does the record profits these companies are reporting, everyone moans at sir beer for taking away Alan Sugar and Elton John's amongst others winter fuel payments whilst ignoring these companies record profits, it's mind boggling, I look at the smart metres thread where it's page after page of people being delighted at saving literally tuppence and think whilst I'm glad they're happy, they're somewhat distracted and missing the bigger picture

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

, I look at the smart metres thread where it's page after page of people being delighted at saving literally tuppence and think whilst I'm glad they're happy, they're somewhat distracted and missing the bigger picture

Yes but these boys and their toys, love the gadgets to look at all day. Beats daytime TV I guess

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The standing charge for electricity has more than doubled since 2021 iirc and it stinks, as does the record profits these companies are reporting, everyone moans at sir beer for taking away Alan Sugar and Elton John's amongst others winter fuel payments whilst ignoring these companies record profits, it's mind boggling, I look at the smart metres thread where it's page after page of people being delighted at saving literally tuppence and think whilst I'm glad they're happy, they're somewhat distracted and missing the bigger picture

I have saved far more than a few pence since i moved to agile. I am i admit a heavy user of electricity I have an EV that is used everyday back and to from work and other heavy usage items. The attachment here is a comparison of my usage and what it costs between the standard fixed rate for Octopus and the Octopus Agile rate for the last month. I use the big boys toys to my advantage if it saves me a lot of money.

I hardly use any gas at all, the only use is the boiler which does the hot water. I might look at a heat pump at some point and get rid of the gas completely.

I agree the standing charge has become a rip off and i cannot see it changing anytime soon.