Smart Meters and Tariffs

Originally Posted by FamousBeetle

Mine went live last week. Waiting for it to give us the first meter reading. Will update everyone as to how it goes.

A week and you dont have a reading yet ?

I thought the point of them was they could do readings every 1/2 hour or so.

Originally Posted by Paul

A week and you dont have a reading yet ?

I thought the point of them was they could do readings every 1/2 hour or so.

they do

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by Paul

A week and you dont have a reading yet ?

I thought the point of them was they could do readings every 1/2 hour or so.

They do readings every half an hour for lecy, once a day for gas. Then they transmit the data to the energy company once day, some times it may take 2-3 days due to local problems.

In my case, I live at the bottom of a hill. An electromagnetic cloud parked at the bottom of the hill (over several houses) for few days, cutting off all transmissions (no satellite TV or Freeview via aerial, mobile signal too). After few days Octopus got all of the data.

[joglynne]

I found this guide for Octopus users by Guy Lipman very informative. It includes a section regarding the smart meters they use, and their weaknesses, under the Consumption Data section.
https://www.guylipman.com/octopus/octopus_guide.html

[noel43]

Originally Posted by denphone

We have had one for nearly 5 years, never had one problem with them.

Likewise.

[Taf]

Last week I had a daily call trying to get me to swap for a smart meter.

The first was an Indian chap with an accent so thick that I could only understand the occasional word. "No thanks".

Then a guy asking me to arrange a date and time. "No thanks".

The third told me they would be coming the following week. "No thanks".

Number 4 told me that the meter was out of calibration. "No thanks".

Then on Friday I was told that they had a legal obligation to change the meter as it was "15 years old". In fact it was replaced 8 years ago, with another analogue one, as I had insisted.

The big guns came out of Saturday morning:

"Under the Acts and Article 6 ECHR, access is reasonably required to replace the meter. Our technician will attend to replace the meter, and will show the warrant and leave a copy for your own records. Your home will be without power for approximately 3 hours. If you have sensitive items in refrigerators or freezers, do not open them during the disconnection. If you have a need for an electricity supply for medical equipment, a portable generator will be made available. Please note that Gas Central Heating will not operate without an electrical supply".

I requested another analogue meter only to be told "We don't have any".

It seems I'm stuffed then.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Taf

It seems I'm stuffed then.

Only if you let them in...

[Taf]

The tech will come with a warrant giving them right to access.

"B(1) Smart Meter Rollout Obligations
4. Currently, energy suppliers are subject to licence conditions imposing an obligation to take all reasonable steps (ARS) to install smart meters at each domestic premises or designated premises in respect of which it is the supplier by 31 December 2020 (“the ARS Obligation”): see Electricity Standard Licence Condition 39; Gas Standard Licence
Condition 33.1.

5. On 18 June 2020, BEIS (Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy) announced its decision as to the regulatory obligations which will apply from 1 January 2021, when the ARS Obligation is due to expire (“the BEIS Decision”):

5.1. Given delays to installation and uncertainty caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, BEIS has decided to extend the ARS Obligation for a further six months to 30 June 2021.

5.2. Thereafter, from 1 July 2021 to the end of the rollout programme on 30 June 2025, suppliers will be subject to percentage rollout targets which must be met, subject to a
specific tolerance level, towards a final target of 100% rollout."

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/defau...nsultation.pdf

If you refuse, are they going to stand and argue with you, or just move onto the next job ? ..

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Paul

If you refuse, are they going to stand and argue with you, or just move onto the next job ? ..

I'm waiting on a return call from CAB. They have all the details and will advise me.

[ianch99]

Why do people not like Smart Meters? I mean real, concrete reasons, not fears of what may or may happen in some perceived future.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Why do people not like Smart Meters? I mean real, concrete reasons, not fears of what may or may happen in some perceived future.

There's nothing more the British love than when a first world problem intersects with a good old conspiracy theory. Smart meters hit this sweet spot!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There's nothing more the British love than when a first world problem intersects with a good old conspiracy theory. Smart meters hit this sweet spot!

I still am in the dark, what is this "first world problem" you mention?

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Taf

I'm waiting on a return call from CAB. They have all the details and will advise me.

Either be out when the installer is due to call or just don't answer the door?

Originally Posted by ianch99

Why do people not like Smart Meters? I mean real, concrete reasons, not fears of what may or may happen in some perceived future.

Well I dont suppose this helps ;

Faulty smart meters rise to nearly four million

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9zqn77ezno