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Re: Trump’s Troubles
Back on topic, please
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17-01-2024, 14:53
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
No troubles for Trump in Iowa.
https://www.ft.com/content/7c0a19fd-...6-35d5bf0d12ea
Admittedly in a weather impacted low turnout, but no indications that he wouldn't have won with a higher turnout.
All the pundits I've listened to have said that it's a done deal that he'll get the nomination, even just off this one result.
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17-01-2024, 17:27
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.
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17-01-2024, 18:24
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.
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Even if he loses, it’s unlikely he’ll accept the result…
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17-01-2024, 21:22
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.
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I think he'll lose to Biden, the others would win against him
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17-01-2024, 21:44
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I think he'll lose to Biden, the others would win against him
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Well when you have the whole of the MSM against you, it will be struggle.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-msnbc-1861186
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Biden is incapable of debating Trump.
So somehow they’ll stop that from happening, or just not have Biden run again.
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17-01-2024, 22:03
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
I said before the Republicans seem determined to nominate the one person Biden could beat and the Democrats are determined to stick with the one guy who could lose to Trump.
Neither are at all popular.
They're also both so old. It's just crazy what the United States is doing. Completely unhinged political system.
I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election. Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.
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17-01-2024, 23:01
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election.
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Many previous posts in this thread, where I have laid out that, that claim just doesn’t stack up.
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Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.
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Countries that try to silence and imprison their political opponents………you mean like the US currently?
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17-01-2024, 23:08
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Originally Posted by Damien
I said before the Republicans seem determined to nominate the one person Biden could beat and the Democrats are determined to stick with the one guy who could lose to Trump.
Neither are at all popular.
They're also both so old. It's just crazy what the United States is doing. Completely unhinged political system.
I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election. Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.
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Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
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17-01-2024, 23:40
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
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Quote? link?
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17-01-2024, 23:46
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Quote? link?
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https://apnews.com/article/social-me...82c0cfa6598444
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Trump, who announced last month that he is running again for president, made the claim over the weekend on his Truth Social media platform.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-han...ae7dd7f1235c72
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Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’ follows growing worry over his authoritarian rhetoric
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18-01-2024, 00:10
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Thanks Hugh.
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18-01-2024, 14:25
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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He just said he's going to close the border, and drill (for oil I presume)
I don't know if he can close the border with an executive order, but if he can, then it's just a power any and every president has had.
It is an odd power in the "greatest democracy" in the world that the president can invoke law with the stroke of a pen without consulting either House.
But you could argue any president that has issued an executive order has acted like a dictator, and they all have.
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18-01-2024, 15:49
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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He just said he's going to close the border, and drill (for oil I presume)
I don't know if he can close the border with an executive order, but if he can, then it's just a power any and every president has had.
It is an odd power in the "greatest democracy" in the world that the president can invoke law with the stroke of a pen without consulting either House.
But you could argue any president that has issued an executive order has acted like a dictator, and they all have.
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And what about his statement regarding terminating the Constitution?
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termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent
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18-01-2024, 17:29
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
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Totally. And this is from the man who advocates for the right to bear arms on the basis of the Constitution. You couldn't make it up!
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