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				Robert Jenrick going to resign sky news reporting 
			
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			06-12-2023, 20:35
			
			
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			It is with great sadness that I have written to the Prime Minister to tender my resignation as Minister for Immigration. 
I cannot continue in my position when I have such strong disagreements with the direction of the Government’s policy on immigration.
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			07-12-2023, 00:42
			
			
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			You do know why he resigned, right ? 
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				Robert Jenrick has resigned as immigration minister, saying the government's emergency Rwanda legislation "does not go far enough".
			
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				hopefully speeds up general election Den we need this worst government ever out soon as possible 
			
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 Nope. Hes resigning as a minister, not an MP. You'll have to do your anti tory rants a bit longer still.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-12-2023, 10:14
			
			
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			Looks like it was a tough PMQs for Sunak on the Rwanda treaty. 
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				Starmer said: “When they first announced this gimmick, they claimed Rwanda would settle tens of thousands of people … then the Court of Appeal made clear in June there’s housing for just 100. The number of people sent there remains stubbornly consistent - Zero.  
 
“At the same time, article 19 of the treaty says the parties shall make arrangements for the UK to resettle a portion of Rwanda’s most vulnerable refugees in the UK. So how many refugees from Rwanda will be coming here to the UK under the treaty?” 
 
As Sunak rose to respond he was drowned out by laughter, and with a high-pitched voice mistakenly referred to “Mr Speaker” instead of “Madam Deputy Speaker”, as Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker of the House, is off sick with Covid and is being replaced by Eleanor Laing. 
 
He hurriedly rushed through his response, saying “it’s a point of pride that we are a compassionate country” and then said Starmer wanted to “cook up a deal with the EU”. The Labour leader didn’t look worried at all - match point Starmer.
			
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			07-12-2023, 11:03
			
			
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				and even better from Rwanda saying if you break international law the deal is off 
			
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Sunak says he needs his legislation to get Rwanda flights off the ground.  
 
But Tory right won’t back it. And Rwanda won’t back a treaty that breaks international law. 
 
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				So we have arrived at a place where Rwanda, of all places, is telling us to adhere to international law! 
			
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It’s the ‘going further’ bit that Jenric & Braverman want that is wrong. We cannot withdraw from the EHRC in its entirety because, as I understand of the GFA, also legally binding.  
 
Thus the Rwanda is Safe Bill is flawed in that decisions taken under that law, if passed, remain open to legal challenge.  All of this should have been made watertight by Patel and it wasn’t.  And prolly couldn’t have been, making thw whole Rwanda scheme pointless.  
 
A properly planned joint police campaign with France and other countries to take down the traffickers would have been a reasonable approach even if difficult to negotiate.  
 
All that said, I do want illegal migrants to be detained with no liberty if we can’t depirt them. Some emergency/security basis will need to be applied.  
 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I don't understand how anyone can take us seriously when we pass a law instructing our highest court to ignore some existing laws. What a joke.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I don't understand how anyone can take us seriously when we pass a law instructing our highest court to ignore some existing laws. What a joke. 
			
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 ...and the thin end of a very dodgy wedge if they get away with it this time. We get more like a banana republic every month under their watch.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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