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I would have expected all Leavers to have wanted the UK to remain sovereign rather than taking even more instruction from Brussels.  It’s the fundamental argument for Brexit.  
 
What we then do with it is up to business skill and sensible governance, the latter lacking.  
 
Additionally, Sunak, being rich for non-EU reasons, would not have been wedded to any argument for remaining.  
 
I would have thought.  
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-08-2023, 17:16
			
			
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I would have expected all Leavers to have wanted the UK to remain sovereign rather than taking even more instruction from Brussels.  It’s the fundamental argument for Brexit.  
 
What we then do with it is up to business skill and sensible governance, the latter lacking.  
 
Additionally, Sunak, being rich for non-EU reasons, would not have been wedded to any argument for remaining.  
 
I would have thought.  
 
 
			
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 Sovereignty?   Think people would rather have cheaper prices, crops harvested, trade deals that work both ways   an NHS staffed and not have been lied to, big time.  Many leavers have woken up to that. For Brussels,  read Whitehall, except out bureaucrats aren't as good and have a much weaker hand.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-08-2023, 20:00
			
			
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Btw, I’ll walk into Andrew’s trap. EU workers are not a cultural threat. They integrate quite naturally and don’t demand slavery reparations. Nor are they machete trained.  
 
 
			
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From today's Telegraph (and the Times, et al): 
 
The machetes have been deployed. 
 
 
		 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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From today's Telegraph (and the Times, et al): 
 
The machetes have been deployed. 
 
 
 
			
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 You’re despicable Seph.
 
All I see are scholars, future doctors, nurses, engineers, scientists, care givers.  The country’s future has never looked better.  
 
These talented people will rise up, lift the economy, and carry us white supremacists shoulder high off into our retirement.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			30-08-2023, 20:58
			
			
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From today's Telegraph (and the Times, et al): 
 
The machetes have been deployed. 
 
 
 
			
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I live there (working days), on the road behind Portobello. The machetes people were cockney, and judging from their accents East London.  
 
The Jamaicans are fun and lovely!
 
Portobello Rd is very, very peaceful.  Never any trouble.
 
It's a carnival problem.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			30-08-2023, 21:16
			
			
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			Sure - certainly a carnival problem. 
 
But I was mocked for mentioning machetes, yet there they are. 
 
Btw, I know the area very well having Lived in Moscow Road for several years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Sure - certainly a carnival problem. 
 
But I was mocked for mentioning machetes, yet there they are. 
 
Btw, I know the area very well having Lived in Moscow Road for several years. 
			
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 Bloody hell, almost neighbours!
 
I have a flat at Colville Square Gardens, but..... but let's not go into the slavery history of my flat....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Bloody hell, almost neighbours! 
 
I have a flat at Colville Square Gardens, but..... but let's not go into the slavery history of my flat.... 
			
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 In my day, bus drivers, milkmen and other working class people lived there - more particularly to my knowledge, Colville Terrace. 
 
Ladbroke Grove was less cosmopolitan then.  I'm nostalgically pleased to see that the 52 bus still runs there (we later moved to Willesden). 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Yeap. The movie and gentrification changed Notting hill. Ladbroke Grove still has some real local people....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Meanwhile back in Tory Britain. Yes, they are really toast: the RSPB has had enough: 
https://twitter.com/RSPBEngland/stat...45799383003180
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@RishiSunak @michaelgove @theresecoffey 
 
you said you wouldn’t weaken environmental protections. 
 
And yet that’s just what you are doing. 
 
You lie, and you lie, and you lie again. 
 
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			31-08-2023, 11:38
			
			
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The charity initially told the BBC it stood by the comments. 
 
However three hours later it apologised, saying the original post had fallen "below the standard we set ourselves". 
 
"We will continue to campaign vigorously on behalf of nature but we will always do so in a polite and considered manner," it added. 
 
One of the charity's trustees Ben Caldecott had publicly criticised the post on X, saying it was "simply not an appropriate contribution to our public discourse from such an important and highly respected organisation". 
 
"We can strongly disagree and make our case without calling people 'LIARS!'" he said, adding that he had raised the issue "urgently" with the charity's chief executive and chair. 
 
Conservative MP Mark Jenkinson accused the RSPB of becoming "a political campaigning organisation" and called for the regulator the Charity Commission to strip the organisation of its charity status. 
 
Political campaigning by charities is allowed under guidance issued by the Charity Commission, but any involvement with political parties must be balanced.
			
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He definitely knows where the bodies are buried* - five different Secretary of State positions, under three different Prime Ministers, in one year…
 
*tbf, he was Tory Party Chairman 2012-2015, which would have been useful for gathering kompromat…
		  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Basically the saying 'Jack of all trades, master of none' is all that's needed to be said.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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