Britain outside the EU

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

I can’t believe it took CCHQ 5 days to come up with that reply.

Originally Posted by jfman

I can’t believe it took CCHQ 5 days to come up with that reply.

tbf, they’ve been busy trying to locate Nadine Dorries…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

I can’t believe it took CCHQ 5 days to come up with that reply.

That's due to their staff having holidays.

The sooner that we can take advantage of our hard-won Brexit freedoms by dispensing with such anti-competitive luxuries, the better.

[1andrew1]

British farmers won't be too happy but many of us will be pleased that the government is kicking this inflation tin can down the alley.

The UK government has confirmed a fifth delay to the implementation of its post-Brexit border controls on food and fresh products, as ministers admitted the new regime on EU imports will push up prices.

Ministers also confirmed a move, first reported by the FT last week, to push back the launch of new paperwork requirements at the border to January and delay new import checks until April, following Treasury concerns over the inflationary impact of the incoming regime and a request by traders for more time to prepare.

https://www.ft.com/content/7ae83ce4-...8-9b98ee01c39e

However, others fear the lack of checks will promote the UK as dumping ground for poor quality food.

Maggot-ridden meat among illegal products seized by officials in Dover crackdown

Port security found 21 of 22 lorries searched were carrying illegal food destined for shops and markets

Port officials at Dover seized illegal products including maggot-ridden meat in a series of raids.

The 24-hour crackdown earlier this month targed eatern European food lorries entering the UK.

They searched 22 vehicles from Romanian, Moldovan, Ukraine and Poland with illegal meat imports found in 21.

Inspectors discovered raw animal products stashed in carrier bags and tissue without temperature control, refrigeration or labels.

The items were not separated from products such as cheese, crisps and cake.

Other foods were found in holdalls, cardboard boxes or cool boxes, to be sold at markets and independent stores across Britain.

In one case raw, unlabelled, loosely-wrapped pork had been placed in the bottom of a taped-up wheelie bin filled with other products intended for free circulation in the UK.

The details were revealed by Natalie Elphicke, the Conservative MP for Dover, in a debate in Westminster Hall on Tuesday. She said “None of this food meets EU requirements and shouldn’t be coming in. It is illegal for the UK market. It highlights why it is wrong to outsource our food and biosecurity controls to the EU.”

“Some drivers said the meat had been home slaughtered. The inspection began after concerns that African swine fever was being spread in imports of illegal meat from eastern Europe.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-b1033827.html

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

British farmers won't be too happy but many of us will be pleased that the government is kicking this inflation tin can down the alley.

https://www.ft.com/content/7ae83ce4-...8-9b98ee01c39e

However, others fear the lack of checks will promote the UK as dumping ground for poor quality food.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-b1033827.html

well thank god there are checks, as if we were still in the EU those lorries full of rotten meat would have come through unchecked.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

well thank god there are checks, as if we were still in the EU those lorries full of rotten meat would have come through unchecked.

There aren't regular checks, these were just a one-off.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There aren't regular checks, these were just a one-off.

So you agree there should be more checks then? Even if it was just a one off. Just think how many tons of rotten meat has come across the channel before Brexit or freely travels across the EU now because there are no checks.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

So you agree there should be more checks then? Even if it was just a one off. Just think how many tons of rotten meat has come across the channel before Brexit or freely travels across the EU now because there are no checks.

If it's marked for UK consumption then it looks like any old stuff is getting through to us. Why should the EU do all the hard work for the UK? I'm pretty sure that this is not the standard of checking given to meats sold in the EU including when the UK was a member.

Based on the evidence in the Standard article, the benefits seem to outweigh the costs of not doing checks but the government has obviously calculated differently.

[TheDaddy]

21 out of 22 lorries contained food unfit for consumption, I don't remember this brexit benefit being on the side of a bus, has there ever been a country in the whole of history that has imposed sanctions on themselves?

[Pierre]

The point I’m making is with freedom of movement of goods pre-Brexit, this could have been happening on a massive scale.

You both are making the case for checking of goods coming in from the EU.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The point I’m making is with freedom of movement of goods pre-Brexit, this could have been happening on a massive scale.

You both are making the case for checking of goods coming in from the EU.

It’s not that they can’t see it, Pierre - they won’t see it.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It’s not that they can’t see it, Pierre - they won’t see it.

Strange - Andrew said

However, others fear the lack of checks will promote the UK as dumping ground for poor quality food.

and

the benefits seem to outweigh the costs of not doing checks

So I’m pretty sure he saw it…

[ianch99]

Loving the knots being tied here Securing control over the UK's borders was the dominant theme of the Leave campaign so we want control except when we don't!

Sums up the cake and eat it philosophy perfectly ...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Loving the knots being tied here Securing control over the UK's borders was the dominant theme of the Leave campaign so we want control except when we don't!

Sums up the cake and eat it philosophy perfectly ...

It's most amusing! Let's take back control on our sixth attempt!

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Strange - Andrew said
So I’m pretty sure he saw it…

Indeed. It seems to be a post-first-then-read-the-posts-to-which-you're-replying afterwards style of debate.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's most amusing! Let's take back control on our sixth attempt!

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Indeed. It seems to be a post-first-then-read-the-posts-to-which-you're-replying afterwards style of debate.

My household calls that post ad-hoc nocter proc.