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		|  18-05-2023, 11:19 | #601 |  
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			Rishi abandons commitment to get net migration down. Quelle surprise. 
 Immigration has been used by the Conservatives (and Labour) to drive down wages wages and living standards in this country for 40 years while blaming the EU bogey man and unquantifiable “red tape”.
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Rishi abandons commitment to get net migration down. Quelle surprise. 
 Immigration has been used by the Conservatives (and Labour) to drive down wages wages and living standards in this country for 40 years while blaming the EU bogey man and unquantifiable “red tape”.
 |  Yep its easy to blame Johnny Foreigner  and the EU for all this country's ills.
 
Well we cannot blame the EU anymore for our ills even though the right wing media and politicians will still have a good try at it.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Yep its easy to blame Johnny Foreigner  and the EU for all this country's ills.
 Well we cannot blame the EU anymore for our ills even though the right wing media and politicians will still have a good try at it.
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Well, it was last time I read the Express!
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		|  18-05-2023, 12:42 | #604 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  I agree. They think that the red meat they are selling will buy them power again but I really do think that there are enough decent people in this country to see through this. The Tories, in their current form, are watching their Rome burn while they fiddle ... |  Fiddle what, the taxpayers
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		|  18-05-2023, 12:52 | #605 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Seems like you subscribe to the Victorian school of values: know your place and if you can't afford food, starve. |  Well if you have to resort to outright lies  to try and validate your point, it's not a very strong point is it?
 Looked like a great speech.
 
Which bit don't you agree with?  Two main points I took from it, I'll paraphrase:
 
1. Todays children are tomorrows leaders, so should we not educate them with British values.
 
2. Keep woke ideology out of school education.  Kids do not need to be taught about Gender ideology, Trans issues, Critical race theory, how colonialism was evil (colonialism itself and incorrect term), etc etc.
 
Teachers should not be sacked for refusing to recognise a pupils "pronouns"
 
Teachers that teach about the prophet mohammed should not have to leave their job and go into hiding.
 
So, I do subscribe to her methods. More schools should and they may get results like this
https://www.mylondon.news/news/north...-gcse-24895029 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Well if you have to resort to outright lies to try and validate your point, it's not a very strong point is it? |  Calm down dear
 
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Which bit don't you agree with?  Two main points I took from it, I'll paraphrase:
 
1. Todays children are tomorrows leaders, so should we not educate them with British values.
 
2. Keep woke ideology out of school education.  Kids do not need to be taught about Gender ideology, Trans issues, Critical race theory, how colonialism was evil (colonialism itself and incorrect term), etc etc.
 
Teachers should not be sacked for refusing to recognise a pupils "pronouns"
 
Teachers that teach about the prophet mohammed should not have to leave their job and go into hiding.
 
So, I do subscribe to her methods. More schools should and they may get results like this
https://www.mylondon.news/news/north...-gcse-24895029 |  You can paraphrase and invent all the scare stories you like, it won't make her, the right-wing Tories and the conference they attended normal. 
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Rishi abandons commitment to get net migration down. Quelle surprise. 
 Immigration has been used by the Conservatives (and Labour) to drive down wages wages and living standards in this country for 40 years while blaming the EU bogey man and unquantifiable “red tape”.
 |  You have to smile though: the Tories will be deserted by the people who voted Brexit to keep the foreigners out and by the decent Tories who are repulsed by their lies & morality.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre   |  Just read the first two. Can't blame the school for some parents' reaction to the cartoon. And the teacher with the pronoun stance was not sacked. 
 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Just read the first two. Can't blame the school for some parents' reaction to the cartoon. And the teacher with the pronoun stance was not sacked. 
 I'll read the rest later.
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  I guess we know where your politics is at the moment. The good news is that the majority of the country are so far away from what this clown show of a conference represents. 
Here's one of your "interesting" people:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...unches-348572/ |  Did anyone ask her what she did to stop her  teachers from feeling ostracised?
		 
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Did anyone ask her what she did to stop her teachers from feeling ostracised? |  Someone posted a screenshot of the letter sent out to the debtor parents in which her school describes what it will do to their children:
   
All makes sense now, Suella Braverman was the first chair of governors at her school.
		 
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All makes sense now, Suella Braverman was the first chair of governors at her school. |  Thanks but that's not really what I'm getting at, she said her staff are ostracised for not being liberal-minded  well, what did she do about it? She makes out she's a leader, what did she do when members of her team needed support, I guessing feck all because this was all a bizarre rant lapped up by a willing audience
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Just read the first two. Can't blame the school for some parents' reaction to the cartoon. And the teacher with the pronoun stance was not sacked. 
 I'll read the rest later.
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The teacher was suspended and then clams she was sacked when she shared details of the incident with her solicitor. Unless you can show me she left of her own free will? I’m always happy to admit if I’m wrong.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/17...council-sacked 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Yup, just scare stories. |  No, reality, unfortunately. 
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All makes sense now, Suella Braverman was the first chair of governors at her school. |  Seems reasonable to me. Or do you think that people that are able to pay for school dinners shouldn’t?
 
Oh and look, they weren’t left to “starve”. That’s because they wouldn’t Be allowed to.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Teachers should not be sacked for refusing to recognise a pupils "pronouns" |  As your article link shows, she wasn't sacked for refusing to recognise a pupil's chosen pronouns but for another reason. 
 
According to the teacher herself.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  The school threw the teacher under the proverbial bus and failed to support him infront of the mob. 
The teacher was suspended and then clams she was sacked when she shared details of the incident with her solicitor. Unless you can show me she left of her own free will? I’m always happy to admit if I’m wrong.
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No, reality, unfortunately. 
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Seems reasonable to me. Or do you think that people that are able to pay for school dinners shouldn’t?
 
Oh and look, they weren’t left to “starve”. That’s because they wouldn’t Be allowed to. |  Why is it reasonable to put a child in isolation because their parent hasn't paid something?
 
The child is be in being punished for something they haven't done.
		 
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