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			08-03-2023, 08:48
			
			
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				Doesn’t make him a rat, though.  
  
			
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 Not my words as you well know.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				MP for Wokingham next?    
			
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				I’m pretty sure Seph wasn’t objecting to a literal use of ‘rat’.  More likely the insinuation that Brady is unprincipled, jumping before he’s pushed, only interested in saving his own skin, etc etc etc. Any or all of which might be true or might not. 
 
I suspect Seph has actually challenged you to back up that assertion in some way.  What you’ve actually done is accuse him of wilfully misunderstanding you, and then responded by wilfully misunderstanding him.  Which seems a bit pointless really. 
			
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 Brady is not a "rat" per se, rather he is leaving the failed Tory Party before he is possibly voted out at the next GE.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-03-2023, 10:54
			
			
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				The rats are leaving the sinking ship… 
Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP 
 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471
Graham Brady has been the MP for Altrincham & Sale West for over 26 years with a 6k+ majority, and is only 55 - unusual for someone in that position/age to stand down…  
			
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 That was the point I was hoping that people would get…
 
(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That was the point I was hoping that people would get… 
 
(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…) 
			
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 To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP. 
			
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 You wonder where Ofcom are in all this as sitting MPs of all political persuasions should not be using TV or Radio channels as a platform for their own politics.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP. 
			
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			To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign. 
 
This will blow up in their faces as they do not yet realise that there are more decent people in this country than those they are pandering to. Sunak has sold his soul to the Farage/UKIP/National Front cabal and will regret it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I think everyone is, especially on small boats, but the measures do seem draconian for show rather than a genuine plan to combat it. Cynically, I don't think they have a real idea of what to do so went with an over-the-top plan designed to caught up in legal challenges so they can pretend it's not their fault.  
 
I mean you're excluded from modern slavery laws if you arrived by boat? No way in hell that happens.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign. 
 
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				Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ? 
			
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 What are "illegal arrivals"? It is not illegal to arrive here via boat and claim asylum. Maybe these people are tired of being forced to travel on small boats since they are unable to claim asylum via any other means.  
 
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 Maybe you prefer the British Union of Fascists?
 
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 If you aware of European history, you will see the similarity between the language & style used by 1930's Germany to demonise the Jews and the current Home Secretary's attempt to achieve a similar feat against the asylum seekers arriving here by boat.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ? 
			
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 Well I'm sick of it.  If that makes me Racist, Fascist, Xenophobic, whatever. So be it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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