Russia has invaded Ukraine

[TheDaddy]

Looks like Germany are releasing the leopards, apparently they have a sort of agreement from America that they'll join in with their tanks which might not be worth the paper it's written on but is enough for them to feel like they're not going it alone which understandably was a big thing for them imo.

Interestingly in terms of escalation, since speculation broke of this the doomsday clock is now at 90 seconds to midnight, the closest it's ever been

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Looks like Germany are releasing the leopards, apparently they have a sort of agreement from America that they'll join in with their tanks which might not be worth the paper it's written on but is enough for them to feel like they're not going it alone which understandably was a big thing for them imo.

Interestingly in terms of escalation, since speculation broke of this the doomsday clock is now at 90 seconds to midnight, the closest it's ever been

The Doomsday clock appears to be suffering what’s been dubbed ‘threat inflation’.

At the height of the Cuban missile crisis in 1962, when a nuclear exchange really was a distinct possibility, it was at 7 minutes to midnight.

https://twitter.com/drradchenko/stat...lqIvQ8MmyiVXEw

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Looks like Germany are releasing the leopards, apparently they have a sort of agreement from America that they'll join in with their tanks which might not be worth the paper it's written on but is enough for them to feel like they're not going it alone which understandably was a big thing for them imo.

Interestingly in terms of escalation, since speculation broke of this the doomsday clock is now at 90 seconds to midnight, the closest it's ever been

That might be because of past doom false alarms. I don't doubt that the world is in a dangerous place because Putin is a wild card, but who can authoritatively give a doomsday clock value unless the remaining 90 second are calibrate to specific potential events?

Because the doomsday clock is attention seeking nonsense I would guess.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That might be because of past doom false alarms. I don't doubt that the world is in a dangerous place because Putin is a wild card, but who can authoritatively give a doomsday clock value unless the remaining 90 second are calibrate to specific potential events?

I don't even want to give puti credit for this tbh, climate change and the unintended consequences of his war are as likely to have pushed the time up rather than the threat of him going nuclear

Originally Posted by Damien

Because the doomsday clock is attention seeking nonsense I would guess.

Like most forum posts then

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

The Doomsday clock appears to be suffering what’s been dubbed ‘threat inflation’.

At the height of the Cuban missile crisis in 1962, when a nuclear exchange really was a distinct possibility, it was at 7 minutes to midnight.

https://twitter.com/drradchenko/stat...lqIvQ8MmyiVXEw

That clock is a load of nonsense or words to that effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6jAdv14W-M

Speculation,speculation sure sells a lot of news..

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Speculation,speculation sure sells a lot of news..

It's just worrying vulnerable people unnecessarily about the worst thing in the World that could happen.

[Mr K]

The Kremlin has accused Boris Johnson, the former British Prime Minister, of "lying" when he said President Vladimir Putin had threatened him with a missile strike during a phone call in the run-up to the invasion of Ukraine.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, told reporters that what Johnson said was not true, or "more precisely, a lie".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...agner-bakhmut/

Tbf to the Russians they're probably right on this one, as he is an habitual liar.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...agner-bakhmut/

Tbf to the Russians they're probably right on this one, as he is an habitual liar.

That's the trouble, isn't it?

You have a charismatic but dishonest PM in power and your ability to call Putin out is weakened.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's the trouble, isn't it?

You have a charismatic but dishonest PM in power and your ability to call Putin out is weakened.

No it isn't, you don't need bozos dishonest anecdotes to call puti out, it's not like that's the only thing we've got

Trying to work out if it’s Putin or Boris who’s lying is like trying to ask what happens when an irresistible force encounters an immovable object.

Originally Posted by Chris

Trying to work out if it’s Putin or Boris who’s lying is like trying to ask what happens when an irresistible force encounters an immovable object.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

No it isn't, you don't need bozos dishonest anecdotes to call puti out, it's not like that's the only thing we've got

As the posts after ours showed, if you're trying to win a propaganda war against Putin, BoJo is a chink in our armour.

https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/sta...mXLd6RJqGkDqvw



Strange - I thought it was Russia invading Ukraine that led to war in Europe?