U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House

Originally Posted by Damien

Sorry should have said 'all but' confirming. I.E They look certain now.

Let’s stick with what Americans say… “Projected winners”.

Confirmed that the House is now Republican. Looks like they're have a majority of a handful of seats

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

Confirmed that the House is now Republican. Looks like they're have a majority of a handful of seats

And they're aleady fighting each other...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...droidApp_Other

Democrats solidify their hold on the senate by winning the Georgia run-off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63877555

Apparently the first time since 1931 that a ruling party hasn’t lost a single senate seat at mid-term elections.

Also worth noting that the GOP candidate was yet another under-performing MAGA Trump-backed placeman. Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

It's gone, but that won't stop his inflated ego from running again. If he runs and gets the nomination, he'll gift Biden (or his successor) a second term by simply being being the least worst option.

Originally Posted by Chris

Democrats solidify their hold on the senate by winning the Georgia run-off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63877555

Apparently the first time since 1931 that a ruling party hasn’t lost a single senate seat at mid-term elections.

Also worth noting that the GOP candidate was yet another under-performing MAGA Trump-backed placeman. Looks like the magic’s wearing off.

Democrats lose a Senator, what a crying shame.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2242122.html

Democrats go back to holding 50 seats. She could still caucus with them, as an Independent but she has rejected some of their party policies, voted against ending the filibuster to get Biden's legislative agenda through.

She has said she will still caucus with the Democrats

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...to-independent

Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema declared as an independent Friday but made clear she intends to continue to caucus with Democrats, maintaining the party’s newly expanded control of the chamber, committee subpoena power and ability to advance judicial nominees.

The VP still has the Casting Vote, though…

Originally Posted by Mick

Democrats lose a Senator, what a crying shame.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2242122.html

Democrats go back to holding 50 seats. She could still caucus with them, as an Independent but she has rejected some of their party policies, voted against ending the filibuster to get Biden's legislative agenda through.

It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

A majority is good for the committee's though regardless of casting vote, that said I guess they still have a majority though as she is independent, maybe even available to the highest bidder!

Originally Posted by Hugh

She has said she will still caucus with the Democrats

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...to-independent



The VP still has the Casting Vote, though…

Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

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Originally Posted by Chris

It doesn’t really counter my point though, does it. Trump-backed candidates have underperformed in these elections, even in places where non-Trumpite Republican candidates have done well. The personal decision of a senator to ditch the Dem whip is interesting in its own right but doesn’t contradict the observation that there is limited appetite in the country for MAGA/Trump republicanism.

Plus, as Hugh has pointed out, the VP has the casting vote in the senate so the Dems still have control.

Yes it does, I was making the point, which still stands, Dems have 50 seats again, not 51.

No need to mention Trump, I never brought him up, so I don’t give one iota, about where Trump/MAGA standing is right now & never have.

Originally Posted by Mick

Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

Pretty much the same as before though as Sinema would occasionally rebel as well.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Pretty much the same as before though as Sinema would occasionally rebel as well.

She should resign and face election as an independent candidate.

As others have noted, this has been a successful Senate election for the Democrats. The learnings are pretty much all on the Republican side of the House. And they suggest the need to ditch Trump as he has fallen out of favour with the electorate, bar the die-harders.

Originally Posted by Mick

Only in a tie result & not all the time she won’t and Manchin, usually has his dem colleagues in a fix when he declares he wont vote with them.

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Yes it does, I was making the point, which still stands, Dems have 50 seats again, not 51.

No need to mention Trump, I never brought him up, so I don’t give one iota, about where Trump/MAGA standing is right now & never have.

There are now three Independent Senators, all of whom caucus with the Democrats - Angus King (Maine), Bernie Sanders (Vermont), and Kristen Sinema (Arizona).

Originally Posted by Hugh

There are now three Independent Senators, all of whom caucus with the Democrats - Angus King (Maine), Bernie Sanders (Vermont), and Kristen Sinema (Arizona).

I’m well aware of the numbers, Hugh, doesn’t alter the fact Dems still only have 50 seats, Sinema, just gone, won’t always side with Democrats, Manchin, usually has a habit of voting against his own side, that’s their majority gone. Either way, they’ve lost control of the House.

I’m sorry, but I don’t follow your reasoning.

The Dems had 50 seats before, 48 Dems and 2 Independents who caucused with them.

They now have 48 Dems and 3 Independents who caucus with them, but they still only have 50 seats?