UK Energy Prices

Originally Posted by nomadking

Don't know what our maximum gas generating capacity is, but at the moment we're importing 4.5GW from Europe.

This the latest I can find…

https://www.edie.net/in-numbers-the-...s-predicament/

UK gas production fell 17% between 2020 and 2021, but is on the rise now

BEIS’s figures reveal that the UK produced 363,970 GWh of gas in 2021, down from 439,394 GWh in 2020. Production has grown significantly since 2007, pandemic aside, but it not yet back up to 2019 levels.

However, production may well increase in 2022. BEIS only has figures for the first quarter at the moment, which reveal that production was 5.3% higher in Q1 2022 than in Q1 2021. BEIS puts this down to the completion of maintenance works across the sector and increased demand. Time will tell if this trend continues, as homes, businesses and industry broadly look to reduce their consumption.
4) The UK imports seven times more gas than it exports

Regarding what happened to the gas produced in 2021, around 21% (75,682 GWh) was exported, per BEIS’s figures. The UK has been a net importer of gas for decades, as its demand outstrips domestic supply – and, as noted above, gas is internationally traded. In 2021, the UK imported 560,831 GWh of gas, more than seven times the amount it exported.

The UK gets 58% of its imported gas from pipelines, primarily Norway (55% of all imports). If demand is high in Europe, competition for Norwegian gas will increase, pushing up the price. The other 42% of gas imports come as LNG, mainly via ships from Qatar and the USA, however, 12% of LNG imports were from Russia in 2020 (making Russia the UK’s third largest supplier). The UK government has committed to phasing out Russian LNG as soon as possible in 2023. The UK is also competing with Asia for LNG.

Then there’s this

https://grid.iamkate.com/

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

This the latest I can find…

https://www.edie.net/in-numbers-the-...s-predicament/



Then there’s this

https://grid.iamkate.com/

I was referring to electricty generated by gas. Perhaps it's cheaper importing from Norway, France, Belguim, and the Netherland, but the links are getting a bit near capacity.

[Taf]

".....the typical household is currently paying £2,500 a year for energy.... without government support households would have paid £4,279 from January.
.......suppliers can charge a maximum of 34p per unit for electricity and 10.3p for gas until April...
The government is paying the energy firms for the shortfall.
Without the government's intervention, consumers would have had to pay 67p per unit for electricity and 17p for gas from January."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63740945

[Chrysalis]

The BBC are really not good at representing some things well when its politically related.

Saying a typical household bill is misleading, I still hope for Ofgem to stop this average bill nonsense and just quote unit rates instead, but the BBC are not helping matters by using an even worse word.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Saying a typical household bill is misleading, I still hope for Ofgem to stop this average bill nonsense and just quote unit rates instead

Ditto, the 'average' figure is largely meaningless, certainly to me.

On the bright side, Bulb seem to be crediting the "Warm Home Discount" automatically.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Paul

Ditto, the 'average' figure is largely meaningless, certainly to me.

On the bright side, Bulb seem to be crediting the "Warm Home Discount" automatically.

Have they started paying it or have they announced they are going to? Last year i did not get mine to January. I am a little nervous about the criteria for automatic payments and how they decide if you need it or not.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

Ditto, the 'average' figure is largely meaningless, certainly to me.

On the bright side, Bulb seem to be crediting the "Warm Home Discount" automatically.

That's way it's done now, although there are extra conditions.
Link

In England and Wales, you qualify for Warm Home Discount if you either:

• get the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit or
• are on a low income and have high energy costs

If you’re eligible for the payment on the qualifying date of 21 August 2022, you don’t need to apply for the Warm Home Discount this year, even if you applied in previous years.
The Government will decide who is eligible and if you are will write to you between November 2022 and mid-January 2023.

The problem with thresholds(of energy costs) is that you could be just £1 below the threshold and not get the discount, but if you were £1 above it, you would get the £150.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

That's way it's done now, although there are extra conditions.
Link

The problem with thresholds(of energy costs) is that you could be just £1 below the threshold and not get the discount, but if you were £1 above it, you would get the £150.

From how I read it it is not done on how much you pay but the building you live in

Scroll down it gives full info

https://octopus.energy/blog/warm-hom...#england-wales

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Have they started paying it or have they announced they are going to? Last year i did not get mine to January. I am a little nervous about the criteria for automatic payments and how they decide if you need it or not.

It's no longer a "first come, first served" system.
Link to simple checker

You’ll also need to know the size and age of your property. You can find this:

• on Energy Performance of Buildings Data if your property has an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC)
• on property documents, like your tenancy agreement or insurance paperwork

People that were eligible before, now won't be.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

It's no longer a "first come, first served" system.
Link to simple checker

People that were eligible before, now won't be.

I have no idea the square meter size of my house and to be honest have no way of knowing how to add it up hahaha but 88 square metre is a no 89 square metre is a yes. Average end terraced on a search (old type so not small) is 1087 square feet so it is touch and go

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

From how I read it it is not done on how much you pay but the building you live in

Scroll down it gives full info

https://octopus.energy/blog/warm-hom...#england-wales

So if potential high energy costs, not actual.Not all the floor space needs to be heated.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I have no idea the square meter size of my house and to be honest have no way of knowing how to add it up hahaha but 88 square metre is a no 89 square metre is a yes. Average end terraced on a search (old type so not small) is 1087 square feet so it is touch and go

Google maps and measure distance tool.

[Jaymoss]

Googled how to measure it and if they count loft space I am about 90 square metres if they do not then I am stuffed at about 60 square metres

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My property apparently does not have a EPC either

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Googled how to measure it and if they count loft space I am about 90 square metres if they do not then I am stuffed at about 60 square metres

Also depends on age of building. You can use the checker and keep changing the floor space size.
It seems to kick in at around 75-80m2 for my bungalow built around 1979.
Where I used to live which was pre-1900 would qualify, even though it has since been upgraded and made more energy efficient.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Also depends on age of building. You can use the checker and keep changing the floor space size.
It seems to kick in at around 75-80m2 for my bungalow built around 1979.

For an end terraced built between 1959 and 1966 it seems to be 89 m2 my house is approx 6 meters x 5 meters

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I would imagine loft space would count as it is an area of heat loss so therefore energy efficiency so that would make in 90 m2

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

For an end terraced built between 1959 and 1966 it seems to be 89 m2 my house is approx 6 meters x 5 meters

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I would imagine loft space would count as it is an area of heat loss so therefore energy efficiency so that would make in 90 m2

Unless the loft has been converted, it isn't floor space. It's not a volume that has to be heated.