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					Originally Posted by denphone  The thing is they can't blame anybody else now because when a government has been in power for 12 years the public knows who is at fault for many of the  problems we are seeing now.
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  . …. Yes - Labour.  |  Hard to see how they could be worse than this rabble.  But as you've acknowledged, we're going to find out.
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  . …. Yes - Labour.  |  I think even if Corbyn was leader, Labour would now win given the Conservative Party's performance over the last couple of years!
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  . …. Yes - Labour.  |  Whataboutery on a major scale Sep as do not the Conservatives own these last 12 years.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Whataboutery on a major scale Sep as do not the Conservatives own these last 12 years. |  
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  "Whataboutery" is a wildly misused expression on this forum.  It's recklessly deployed to dismiss valid points.
 |  What do you expect when you use such ridiculous excuses, can't believe anyone will ever fall for imagine how bad it'll be under labour  after this decade long debacle
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	I'm not so stupid as to defend the Tories for their misgovernment of this country.  But I'm entitled to be even more sceptical of Labour.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  What do you expect when you use such ridiculous excuses, can't believe anyone will ever fall for imagine how bad it'll be under labour after this decade long debacle |  
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I'm not so stupid as to defend the Tories for their misgovernment of this country.  But I'm entitled to be even more sceptical of Labour.
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		|  17-11-2022, 01:44 | #204 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Project fear rearing it's head again, glad den called it out |  Project nonsense posting again.    
Labour will likely be no better, and yes, I can easily imagine how bad it might be, I've lived through Labours disasters as well.
		 
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Labour will likely be no better, and yes, I can easily imagine how bad it might be, I've lived through Labours disasters as well. |  Who here hasn't but rather than dwell in the past and imagine how things might be I'd suggest a much more sensible approach is look at what's actually happened more recently and is still happening, I know the tories are a catastrophic, omnishambles of cock wombles but they may as well shut up shop permanently if all they got left is imagine how bad it'd be under labour |  
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			I'm not sure if Johnson has had a genuine change of heart (he was against onshore wind power as PM) or whether he's sticking the knife into Sunak.    
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		| Liz Truss and Boris Johnson join Tory wind farm rebellion 
 Boris Johnson and Liz Truss are backing an attempt to overturn England's effective ban on onshore wind farms, a Conservative MP has said.
 
 Former minister Simon Clarke said the ex-prime ministers were supporting his bid to relax restrictions through the Levelling Up Bill.
 
 Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has scrapped a move by predecessor Ms Truss to relax the rules.
 
 He has said he wants to prioritise building turbines offshore instead.
 
 Mr Clarke has tabled an amendment to the Levelling Up Bill that would overturn a planning clampdown introduced by former PM David Cameron in 2015.
 
 A spokesman for Mr Johnson has confirmed to the BBC he supports the amendment. Ms Truss has been approached for comment.
 
 The move would allow new turbines with local consent, and represented a "pro-growth, pro-green policy at a time when we need both," he added.
 
 It is the latest rebellion faced by Mr Sunak over the Levelling-Up Bill's planning measures.
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			I see John Redwood seems to have bumped his head and forgotten about a couple of weeks in September/October when this was tried before…https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...9wam_mtWnEWZfw  
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