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			15-11-2022, 21:38
			
			
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			Important to note that the missile killed two people in Poland.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			15-11-2022, 21:49
			
			
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				I don't think they'll invoke Article 5. At the very least there will be pressure from the rest of NATO not to invoke it over this. It's too much of an escalation to collectively take military action against Russia over two wayward missiles. There would have to be evidence of obvious intent. 
			
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 They’ll invoke article 4, and do nothing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			15-11-2022, 21:55
			
			
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			BREAKING: NATO now actively investigating reports of explosion in Poland, near Ukrainian border.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			15-11-2022, 22:09
			
			
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			It is time to give the Ukrainians the weapons with the range to hit back at Russian infrastructure.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			15-11-2022, 22:40
			
			
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			BREAKING: Polish Government raising readiness of military units following reports of missile strikes close to Ukrainian border, Russia denies responsibility.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn. 
 
I do not support Russia's invasion but I also do not trust Zelenskyy
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn. 
			
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 No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile. 
			
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				If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn. 
			
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 Been watching RT again?  More likely a Russian mistake, or a Ukranian missile trying to shoot down a Russian missile.  Either way, Russia is responsible.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Been watching RT again?  More likely a Russian mistake, or a Ukranian missile trying to shoot down a Russian missile.  Either way, Russia is responsible. 
			
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 What's RT? clearly the answer is no
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I am saying it 
			
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 You think Ukraine has decided the best approach now is to fire a missle at a NATO country?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You think Ukraine has decided the best approach now is to fire a missle at a NATO country? 
			
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 They are getting the living crap bombed out of them at the moment so I personally would not put anything past them.
 
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				They are getting the living crap bombed out of them at the moment so I personally would not put anything past them. 
 
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 Poland's an important ally of Ukraine. Such action would make no sense whatsover. Ukraine's plan is to regain its territory and it's been doing so quite effectively.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile. 
			
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 At least then we go down the collateral damage route.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				At least then we go down the collateral damage route. 
			
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 If it turns out it was an incepted missile things will calm down. No blame will be placed on Ukraine because they have the right to defend themselves and it's just unfortunate some remains landed in Poland, people will be angry at Russia but it won't be an attack on a NATO country.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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