Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?] - Page 103

Dingbat · 22-10-2022, 15:52

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The Messiah has landed! He was in the Bermudas as he could not afford electricity in London.

I wonder who paid for his holiday. Bamford again?

**Chris** · 22-10-2022, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Damien

Johnson’s camp claiming to have the numbers now.

Not sure if he has though, seems odd he has far fewer MPs who’ve gone public with it. If he doesn’t reach 100 I wonder if he might throw them to Penny Mordant? 22/1…might be worth a bet ��

Guido thinks he has 72 verified backers. There are nearly 140 MPs with no known allegiance as of right now, it’s entirely possible that 28 of them are supporting Boris whilst having just enough self awareness to keep quiet about it.

The sensible wing of the party had better hope Rishi Sunak gets more than 50% of the support so it doesn’t go to the party membership. If it goes to the members, Boris is in with a shout, and if he gets it there’s a decent chance the parliamentary party will self destruct and force an election.

**Damien** · 22-10-2022, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Chris

Guido thinks he has 72 verified backers. There are nearly 140 MPs with no known allegiance as of right now, it’s entirely possible that 28 of them are supporting Boris whilst having just enough self awareness to keep quiet about it.

The sensible wing of the party had better hope Rishi Sunak gets more than 50% of the support so it doesn’t go to the party membership. If it goes to the members, Boris is in with a shout, and if he gets it there’s a decent chance the parliamentary party will self destruct and force an election.

I think Guido and Harry Cole of The Sun might be trying to get a sense of momentum behind Johnson. We’re now early at 48 hours from the start of this and he still has fewer declared nominations? Why would you keep it secret when the whole logic behind him is that he is so popular with the base? Thursday evening into Friday morning there was a flurry of nominations seemingly designed to make it clear he was unstoppable, maybe that has stalled.

Even the phrasing of the statement from Boris Johnson supporters that he ‘could stand if we wanted too’ could be read as a face saving exercise if he doesn’t reach 100.

All theory that will likely be disproven as soon as I post this but I am not convinced he has the numbers and it could be he now tried to act to stop Sunak. (And again PM is at 22/1

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papa smurf · 22-10-2022, 16:51

Johnson 'has 100 backers

https://news.sky.com/story/next-prim...daunt-12593360

heero_yuy · 22-10-2022, 16:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Johnson 'has 100 backers

https://news.sky.com/story/next-prim...daunt-12593360

If Johnson gets back in he can claim a mandate and scotch the opposition's call for early election. Tory's in marginals might find that appealing.

TheDaddy · 22-10-2022, 17:11

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If Johnson gets back in he can claim a mandate and scotch the opposition's call for early election. Tory's in marginals might find that appealing.

That's all of them right now then

Pierre · 22-10-2022, 17:19

Not sure why everybody thinks Sunak is the angelic option.

A choice between Sunak and Johnson is no real choice at all.

If that was presented to me, I’d choose Boris.

denphone · 22-10-2022, 17:20

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If Johnson gets back in he can claim a mandate and scotch the opposition's call for early election. Tory's in marginals might find that appealing.

If Boris Johnson gets in there will be a internecine civil war that will tear the Conservative party apart.

Kursk · 22-10-2022, 17:54

There's a big difference between being Chancellor and Prime Minister. Mr Sunak dished out too much on furlough and you can't buy popularity as PM. Boris already has that popularity; anything else is an unknown and we know how the last unknown ended up when in the top job. Boris is a tried and tested leader; the timing is wrong to cross our fingers and hope a new broom can deliver. Get on with the job Boris; your Country needs you.

papa smurf · 22-10-2022, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Not sure why everybody thinks Sunak is the angelic option.

A choice between Sunak and Johnson is no real choice at all.

If that was presented to me, I’d choose Boris.

I just see him as a back stabber who spent billions keeping people off work, and the weasel who robbed pensioners because the economic crisis was a glitch

**Chris** · 22-10-2022, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Kursk

There's a big difference between being Chancellor and Prime Minister. Mr Sunak dished out too much on furlough and you can't buy popularity as PM. Boris already has that popularity; anything else is an unknown and we know how the last unknown ended up when in the top job. Boris is a tried and tested leader; the timing is wrong to cross our fingers and hope a new broom can deliver. Get on with the job Boris; your Country needs you.

I suggest we don’t need a leader who makes laws, flouts them, and repeatedly lies and ignores rules and conventions to get his mates out of trouble.

papa smurf · 22-10-2022, 18:23

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I suggest we don’t need a leader who makes laws, flouts them, and repeatedly lies and ignores rules and conventions to get his mates out of trouble.

I believe that version of Boris resigned and we got a new PM ,this Boris is absolved of all sin after doing the right thing and resigning from his post ,he's just going after a job vacancy brought about by bullying and infighting within the pack

**Hugh** · 22-10-2022, 18:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

I just see him as a back stabber who spent billions keeping people off work, and the weasel who robbed pensioners because the economic crisis was a glitch

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

I believe that version of Boris resigned and we got a new PM ,this Boris is absolved of all sin after doing the right thing and resigning from his post ,he's just going after a job vacancy brought about by bullying and infighting within the pack

That’s an interesting way of looking at things…

I suppose you could say the same about Sunak - that version of Rishi resigned and we got a new PM ,this Rishi is absolved of all sin after doing the right thing and resigning from his post ,he's just going after a job vacancy brought about by bullying and infighting within the pack…

papa smurf · 22-10-2022, 18:32

Have you ever had an original idea or are you just a knock off Nigel

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Penny Mordaunt launches campaign video

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...prime-minister

**Mick** · 22-10-2022, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Chris

Guido thinks he has 72 verified backers. There are nearly 140 MPs with no known allegiance as of right now, it’s entirely possible that 28 of them are supporting Boris whilst having just enough self awareness to keep quiet about it.

The sensible wing of the party had better hope Rishi Sunak gets more than 50% of the support so it doesn’t go to the party membership. If it goes to the members, Boris is in with a shout, and if he gets it there’s a decent chance the parliamentary party will self destruct and force an election.

There is nothing sensible about leaning towards Rishi, Chris, he too, was fined and broke rules and conventions, you cannot just say this for one person, Boris, when it applies to them both.