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				Not sure how this will affect those that came out of a fix tariff deal due to the Gov's energy promise. I bet they must be fuming and rightly so. 
			
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 I did, and while immediately was miffed when I thought it through my bills are less than 2/3 of the fix until April. I’ll pay higher rates April to August when my fix would have ended anyway however usage will be significantly lower. I’d probably still be better off than sticking with the fix.
 
24 month fixes might be a bit different.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-10-2022, 20:41
			
			
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				Energy support scheme cut back today by Jeremy Hunt. The price guarantee for households will only be for the vulnerable after April 2023. 
			
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 In the present economic disaster, most of us are "vulnerable".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			17-10-2022, 22:33
			
			
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				In the present economic disaster, most of us are "vulnerable". 
			
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			17-10-2022, 22:59
			
			
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			I think 6 months makes more sense. It gets you past the winter and then you can reassess the situation in the spring when things are warmer.  
 
Hopefully, it gives the government time to devise a more targeted scheme as well. I like the idea of the taper which means the subsidy gets lower the more energy you use apart from people that have special requirements, i.e machines to manage a disability, which should IMO be supported entirely by the government anyway.  
 
They should also do the windfall tax on producers, makes the policy much cheaper.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-10-2022, 14:50
			
			
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			Just for information/discussion  
Our Energy bill for late September/October last year was £107, using 441Kwh of Electricity and 772Kwh of Gas (£82 for Electricity, £25 for Gas)
 
The bill for the same period (just received) this year is £190, using 382Kwh of Electricity and 453Kwh of Gas (£137 for Electricity, £53 for Gas)
  
So, we used 13% less Electricity and 41% less Gas, but paid 77% more…
  
		 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			28-10-2022, 14:58
			
			
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			Sitting around in a big jumper and long johns sure costs a lot these days  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			After 4 weeks' silence, Scottish Power has increased my DD from £152pm to £250. 
 
My account does not show that I gave a meter reading at the end of last month, nor does it tell me the rates they are charging now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-10-2022, 23:57
			
			
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				The bill for the same period (just received) this year is £190, using 382Kwh of Electricity and 453Kwh of Gas (£137 for Electricity, £53 for Gas) 
			
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 Crikey, do you live in a hut ?  
My electricity and gas use is higher than that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-10-2022, 00:08
			
			
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				Crikey, do you live in a hut ?  
My electricity and gas use is higher than that. 
			
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 Before this crisis, i wouldn’t see any change from £5K a year.  For my Gas+Elec.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-10-2022, 00:21
			
			
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				Crikey, do you live in a hut ?  
My electricity and gas use is higher than that. 
			
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 Four Bedroom Detached.  
 
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				Before this crisis, i wouldn’t see any change from £5K a year.  For my Gas+Elec. 
			
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 Ours was normally about £1500 for the year (gas & electricity)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Before this crisis, i wouldn’t see any change from £5K a year.  For my Gas+Elec. 
			
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			29-10-2022, 00:40
			
			
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				Why so high, are you running dozens of bitcoin miners or growing......stuff?    
			
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 Before the rises 6 plants under 1600watts cost £250 a crop now you are looking at £750 to £1000 but would still clear 7K so I am told haha
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Hopefully this will help the Bub customers who have been worried by the uncertainty of being without a stable supplier. 
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				snippet Bulb customers will not experience any change or disruption to their energy supplies as part of this transfer. There is no change to either Bulb or Octopus customers’ supply arrangements, and credit balances are protected. This means customers do not need to take any action and all direct debits will automatically be transferred.
			
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				Octopus will continue to use Bulb’s technology and brand for a transitionary period so that there is a smooth transfer for Bulb’s customers. In addition, customers will continue to benefit from Ofgem’s supply licence protections, such as ensuring energy suppliers provide advice for vulnerable customers through existing financial support schemes.
			
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				I'm a very happy Bulb customer with how it operates so I hope Octopus is the same. 
			
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 I have been with Octopus for several years and have been very satisfied by the way they operate.  I even gave in and had them install the dreaded smart meters, the website details they  display have been  a great help in my efforts to bring down our useage over the last few months.  
 
The smart meters  themselves have been hidden away  by John since I became errrrrr  'mildly' obsessed working out energy/appliance  useage figures.   The spreadsheet I created was impressive though.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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