Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]

[jfman]

Truss can’t say to Sky News - when pressed - that she trusts the Chancellor.

If she can’t even say it why should I

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Truss can’t say to Sky News - when pressed - that she trusts the Chancellor.

If she can’t even say it why should I

Truss was asked a question on LBC Radio on do you think pensioners are worth more then benefit claimants.

Again she did not answer the question.

This may upset some quarters of my own “Conservative” allies on here, but I cannot, in all good conscience carry on supporting the Conservatives, with Liz Truss at the helm, she wasn’t, along with Rishi, the best two final choices.

The current, as Lord David Frost, has said today, “Amateurish and bungling” policies this government has undertook in a few short weeks, is a bad look, giving top earners a tax cut, then deciding benefits won’t rise in line with inflation, Truss not being honest about the 2,500 energy price cap and issuing yet another apology.

Can’t even say Tory members made wrong choice with Truss, because Rishi, would have been just as bad, imo.

Nah, we need a General Election, Truss has already broke promises, she doesn’t have a mandate to run country.

Some Folk know on here, I work in the healthcare industry, the NHS, is at crippling point, nobody should have to wait over half a day, when they have had a serious fall, but that’s what’s happening. There’s not enough beds, because the elderly patients can’t be discharged to care homes quick enough, where they should be, because the social care sector, is also in crisis, with 100,000+ staff vacancies empty, meaning care homes can’t take on new clients.

It’s a combination of other factors too, the backlog of people waiting for treatment is colossal, people who can’t see a GP, probably because they don’t have one, phone 111, get sent to A & E for the slightest of health problems.

So to summarise, under 12 years of Tory rule, NHS, is in bits, I’m not saying when you get treatment, it’s really bad, just the wait times are utterly dreadful, it’s a disaster.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Mick

This may upset some quarters of my own “Conservative” allies on here, but I cannot, in all good conscience carry on supporting the Conservatives, with Liz Truss at the helm, she wasn’t, along with Rishi, the best two final choices.

The current, as Lord David Frost, has said today, “Amateurish and bungling” policies this government has undertook in a few short weeks, is a bad look, giving top earners a tax cut, then deciding benefits won’t rise in line with inflation, Truss not being honest about the 2,500 energy price cap and issuing yet another apology.

Can’t even say Tory members made wrong choice with Truss, because Rishi, would have been just as bad, imo.

Nah, we need a General Election, Truss has already broke promises, she doesn’t have a mandate to run country.

Some Folk know on here, I work in the healthcare industry, the NHS, is at crippling point, nobody should have to wait over half a day, when they have had a serious fall, but that’s what’s happening. There’s not enough beds, because the elderly patients can’t be discharged to care homes quick enough, where they should be, because the social care sector, is also in crisis, with 100,000+ staff vacancies empty, meaning care homes can’t take on new clients.

It’s a combination of other factors too, the backlog of people waiting for treatment is colossal, people who can’t see a GP, probably because they don’t have one, phone 111, get sent to A & E for the slightest of health problems.

So to summarise, under 12 years of Tory rule, NHS, is in bits, I’m not saying when you get treatment, it’s really bad, just the wait times are utterly dreadful, it’s a disaster.

seems like everyday more and more tories turning against her be very surprised if she sees xmas as PM looks like she only got support of the far right of the party only

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

This may upset some quarters of my own “Conservative” allies on here, but I cannot, in all good conscience carry on supporting the Conservatives, with Liz Truss at the helm, she wasn’t, along with Rishi, the best two final choices.

The current, as Lord David Frost, has said today, “Amateurish and bungling” policies this government has undertook in a few short weeks, is a bad look, giving top earners a tax cut, then deciding benefits won’t rise in line with inflation, Truss not being honest about the 2,500 energy price cap and issuing yet another apology.

Can’t even say Tory members made wrong choice with Truss, because Rishi, would have been just as bad, imo.

Nah, we need a General Election, Truss has already broke promises, she doesn’t have a mandate to run country.

Some Folk know on here, I work in the healthcare industry, the NHS, is at crippling point, nobody should have to wait over half a day, when they have had a serious fall, but that’s what’s happening. There’s not enough beds, because the elderly patients can’t be discharged to care homes quick enough, where they should be, because the social care sector, is also in crisis, with 100,000+ staff vacancies empty, meaning care homes can’t take on new clients.

It’s a combination of other factors too, the backlog of people waiting for treatment is colossal, people who can’t see a GP, probably because they don’t have one, phone 111, get sent to A & E for the slightest of health problems.

So to summarise, under 12 years of Tory rule, NHS, is in bits, I’m not saying when you get treatment, it’s really bad, just the wait times are utterly dreadful, it’s a disaster.

Not often l agree with you politically Mick but you have hit the nail on the head with much of what you say.

Originally Posted by Dave42

seems like everyday more and more tories turning against her be very surprised if she sees xmas as PM looks like she only got support of the far right of the party only

I’ve never been far right, more centre-right. I believe in controlled migration, fairness for all and freedom and democracy.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Mick

I’ve never been far right, more centre-right. I believe in controlled migration, fairness for all and freedom and democracy.

never said you were Mick meant that is who she listening too and the ones that support her she kicked out all the ones that didn't support her and lots of the one nation tories are gone

Originally Posted by denphone

Not often l agree with you politically Mick but you have hit the nail on the head with much of what you say.

Which is now why I’m saying, let’s put this back to the people.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mick

This may upset some quarters of my own “Conservative” allies on here, but I cannot, in all good conscience carry on supporting the Conservatives, with Liz Truss at the helm, she wasn’t, along with Rishi, the best two final choices.

The current, as Lord David Frost, has said today, “Amateurish and bungling” policies this government has undertook in a few short weeks, is a bad look, giving top earners a tax cut, then deciding benefits won’t rise in line with inflation, Truss not being honest about the 2,500 energy price cap and issuing yet another apology.

Can’t even say Tory members made wrong choice with Truss, because Rishi, would have been just as bad, imo.

Nah, we need a General Election, Truss has already broke promises, she doesn’t have a mandate to run country.

Some Folk know on here, I work in the healthcare industry, the NHS, is at crippling point, nobody should have to wait over half a day, when they have had a serious fall, but that’s what’s happening. There’s not enough beds, because the elderly patients can’t be discharged to care homes quick enough, where they should be, because the social care sector, is also in crisis, with 100,000+ staff vacancies empty, meaning care homes can’t take on new clients.

It’s a combination of other factors too, the backlog of people waiting for treatment is colossal, people who can’t see a GP, probably because they don’t have one, phone 111, get sent to A & E for the slightest of health problems.

So to summarise, under 12 years of Tory rule, NHS, is in bits, I’m not saying when you get treatment, it’s really bad, just the wait times are utterly dreadful, it’s a disaster.

Putting my union stewards hat on, I can say I completely agree with everything you've said and I'm in no way on the same side of the political divide as you are Mick. We've been banging on about the concerns you raise for years and if people on the right of politics are feeling similarly aggrieved then the government's days are numbered.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

Which is now why I’m saying, let’s put this back to the people.

l agree but turkeys don't vote for Christmas and if a General Election was called now the Conservatives going by current polling would highly likely lose over 100 plus seats quite easily.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

l agree but turkeys don't vote for Christmas and if a General Election was called now the Conservatives going by current polling would highly likely lose over 100 plus seats quite easily.

They should bin Truss, appoint someone serious. Spend a couple of months working up a policy platform to enter the election with. Have an election next Spring.

Anything less and we simply have a rudderless Government until the next election.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

They should bin Truss, appoint someone serious. Spend a couple of months working up a policy platform to enter the election with. Have an election next Spring.

Anything less and we simply have a rudderless Government until the next election.

I think they're too exhaused and new talent is reluctant to step forward. Time for a general election, let Labour handle the mess, re-group and bounce back brighter in five years' time.

Originally Posted by denphone

l agree but turkeys don't vote for Christmas and if a General Election was called now the Conservatives going by current polling would highly likely lose over 100 plus seats quite easily.

It’s really hard for me to say this, but the way they have carried on, they deserve to. They’ve had a strong mandate given to them in 2019, massive majority and squandered it with petty infighting. There’s no doubt in my mind they’re going to tear themselves up over next two years, while we the people, want action on many domestic fronts, we haven’t got the time to watch them fight each other over next few years.

A Labour government just wouldn’t phase me anymore, I’m politically tired, I’m not saying I’ve switched my political allegiances. I just want our country to get some kind of stability.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

Truss was asked a question on LBC Radio on do you think pensioners are worth more then benefit claimants.

Again she did not answer the question.

There was a reason Cummings "encouraged" her not to do media interviews.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2195185.html

Kwasi Kwarteng blames ‘pressure’ of Queen’s death for botched mini-budget

Chancellor also sparks fresh confusion over next financial statement, saying: ‘It’s going to be 23 November’ – despite Treasury briefing it has been brought forward

Kwasi Kwarteng has blamed the “pressure” of the Queen’s death for mistakes in the mini-budget which has plunged the Tory party in crisis.

“We had a nation in mourning and then, literally, four days after the funeral we had the mini-budget,” the chancellor said.

“It was a high speed, high pressure environment and we could, as David Cameron used to say, have prepared the pitch a bit better.”

Mr Kwarteng also sparked fresh confusion over his next financial statement, saying: “It’s going to be 23 November,” – despite the Treasury briefing it has been brought forward to October.

And he said the scrapping of the 45p tax rate for top earners has merely been “postponed”, before correcting himself to say: “We have decided not to proceed with it.”