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1andrew1 · 10-07-2022, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Damien

They did it within minutes of each other, it was clearly planned together.

Javid denied this today.

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Said there was NO coordination with Sunak

https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/st...55362155057152

Sephiroth · 10-07-2022, 21:32

Who cares? It doesn't half look like a "none of the above" situation.

Mad Max · 10-07-2022, 21:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Javid denied this today.

https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/st...55362155057152

If any of those two fannies get the job I might even vote for independence

1andrew1 · 10-07-2022, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Who cares? It doesn't half look like a "none of the above" situation.

The bookies have the top 5 as
1. Sunak
2. Mordaunt
3. Truss
4. Hunt
5. Tugendhat
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...prime-minister

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

If any of those two fannies get the job I might even vote for independence

Lol - Sunak's the bookies' favourite so you may find yourself voting with jfman!

Sephiroth · 10-07-2022, 22:02

What do the bookies know of the Conservative members' minds? Of course I wouldn't put it past the MPs to do a stitch up to secure a particular result.

1andrew1 · 10-07-2022, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What do the bookies know of the Conservative members' minds? Of course I wouldn't put it past the MPs to do a stitch up to secure a particular result.

It's literally their business to know them as best they can.

**Damien** · 10-07-2022, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What do the bookies know of the Conservative members' minds? Of course I wouldn't put it past the MPs to do a stitch up to secure a particular result.

There is regular polling of the membership from proper pollsters as well as Conservative Home. The bookies are probably getting it from places like that.

There are people - well, journalists - whose job it is to be deeply ingrained with the membership of the main parties precisely because of how it filters through to the country so we usually have an imperfect but decent understanding of it.

Julian · 10-07-2022, 23:29

Sunake in pole position is ludicrous.

Didn't he get a fine for partygate?

Isn't there still a stench around his tax affairs and his wife's non-dom status?

But he is a fully paid up member of WEF......

Kursk · 10-07-2022, 23:29

1. Sunak - leave
2. Mordaunt - leave
3. Truss - remain
4. Hunt - remain
5. Tugendhat - remain
6. Javed - remain
7. Shapps - remain
8. Wallace - remain

I miss Boris already. Back-stabbing bar stewards

1andrew1 · 11-07-2022, 01:23

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Originally Posted by Julian

Sunake in pole position is ludicrous.

Didn't he get a fine for partygate?

Isn't there still a stench around his tax affairs and his wife's non-dom status?

But he is a fully paid up member of WEF......

As the most-favoured Leaver, the MSM will be on board to support Sunak. Expect the Daily Mail, The Sun, The Times and Daily Telegraph to be encouraged to promote him by their foreign and offshore owners. The Daily Express will doubtless follow suit as well.

**Damien** · 11-07-2022, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Kursk

1. Sunak - leave
2. Mordaunt - leave
3. Truss - remain
4. Hunt - remain
5. Tugendhat - remain
6. Javed - remain
7. Shapps - remain
8. Wallace - remain

I miss Boris already. Back-stabbing bar stewards

The difference is that's increasingly less of a dividing line now. The Remainers there aren't advocating rejoin - even Labour aren't advocating Rejoin - and are signed up to the result. The Tory Membership originally had high numbers for Wallace and Truss is quite popular despite both being Remain. People have largely moved on from this being the central issue of politics.

Sephiroth · 11-07-2022, 09:25

Mordaunt strikes me as the candidate with the least adverse form.

I believe

Truss to be a facade,
Sunak to be uncommitted to the UK,
Hunt is rhyming slang,
Tugendhat to be least unacceptable
Javid to be too political,
Shapps ditto.

jfman · 11-07-2022, 10:02

I really hope it doesn’t boil down to whether someone campaigned to leave or remain. The Tories can’t reasonably expect the country to move on if even they can’t!

papa smurf · 11-07-2022, 10:09

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Originally Posted by jfman

I really hope it doesn’t boil down to whether someone campaigned to leave or remain. The Tories can’t reasonably expect the country to move on if even they can’t!

The country hasn't moved on, the "48% "are still moaning about the sodding bus etc

1andrew1 · 11-07-2022, 10:34

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

The country hasn't moved on, the "48% "are still moaning about the sodding bus etc

Externally, the Conservatives and their followers have tried to weaponise Brexit by saying Starmer voted to overturn a democratic decision. So they have a motive to lean into 2016 mode to remind Red Wall voters.

But in the realm of the next Conservative leader, Truss's popularity suggests a moving-on internally.