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		|  28-06-2022, 20:27 | #766 |  
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					Originally Posted by ThunderPants73  I've bought a second hand laptop and hooked it up to the TV, I only use my PC for gaming now, I seem to have saved quite a bit. I used to have the PC on all the time I was in the house, even when watching iPlayer/Prime etc, now it gathers dust most of the time. |  excellent
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		|  28-06-2022, 21:08 | #767 |  
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			The power and fuel costs are now feeding through in very obvious shop price hikes. Several items' I regularly buy have gone up between 9% and 14%, and some have suffered shrinkflation around 20%.
 I managed to pick up a 5kg of dry penne pasta for £1/kg, whilst the store's own brand stuff starts at £1.70/kg.
 
 The bulk sacks of rice in the ethnic aisles has now caught up with the own-brand small packs per kg.
 
 Our gas and leccy consumption is now at its lowest average level for many years (before the twins got older and started gaming online). The mild winter certainly helped.
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		|  28-06-2022, 21:21 | #768 |  
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			Maybe the thread title should be changed to cover the general increase in all prices, because as Taf says it's now starting to impact everydayness not just fuel bills.
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		|  28-06-2022, 21:27 | #769 |  
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			We are doomed captain, doomed.
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		|  28-06-2022, 21:56 | #770 |  
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					Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth  Maybe the thread title should be changed to cover the general increase in all prices, because as Taf says it's now starting to impact everydayness not just fuel bills. |  Why not make a cost of living crisis thread that does not include energy. When I created this thread it was to keep people informed about the price cap. I keep an eye on the projections through moneysavingexpert and keep this post up to date. If it covered everything then the information and relative advice would get swallowed up with the price of breads just gone up
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		|  28-06-2022, 22:29 | #771 |  
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			It’s not a “cost of living” crisis.  It’s an “inflation” crisis.
		 
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		|  28-06-2022, 22:51 | #772 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jaymoss  Why not make a cost of living crisis thread that does not include energy. When I created this thread it was to keep people informed about the price cap. I keep an eye on the projections through moneysavingexpert and keep this post up to date. If it covered everything then the information and relative advice would get swallowed up with the price of breads just gone up |  Because then there'd be two threads that would swallow up each other and overlap beyond belief. I think the Future of TV thread started life as a couple of separate threads and that didn't end well. Anyway, it's not my call if the thread gets renamed but you can see from Tafs post the way it's going to go.
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		|  28-06-2022, 22:54 | #773 |  
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			Not mine either 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  It’s not a “cost of living” crisis.  It’s an “inflation” crisis. |  high "inflation" makes "cost of living" a crisis
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		|  28-06-2022, 23:38 | #774 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jaymoss  high "inflation" makes "cost of living" a crisis |  Yes but framing it this way deflects from the issue.
 
Cost of living crisis…….answer, give people free money handouts,   Rise wages 
 
Inflation crisis……answer…….not the above.
		 
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		|  29-06-2022, 14:29 | #775 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Yes but framing it this way deflects from the issue.
 
 Cost of living crisis…….answer, give people free money handouts,   Rise wages
 
 
 Inflation crisis……answer…….not the above.
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		|  29-06-2022, 16:43 | #776 |  
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			For a start, the Guvmin's support should take the form of a VAT cut, not a duty cut.  That way profiteering is harder to hide and the peops get a better price.
		 
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		|  08-07-2022, 13:17 | #777 |  
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			Price cap is now expected to see a rise of 65% now. Hard not to swear
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		|  08-07-2022, 13:44 | #778 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jaymoss  Price cap is now expected to see a rise of 65% now. Hard not to swear |  These companies are taking the piss
		 
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		|  08-07-2022, 13:50 | #779 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  These companies are taking the piss |  How? They're not the ones setting the costs. They are just passing on the costs that they incur and can't avoid.
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		|  08-07-2022, 13:53 | #780 |  
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			Those who drill the oil and gas are the ones taking the mick. Profiteering on the back of a global crisis. High demand means they can charge what they want and by golly they are doing exactly that
 We should frack in this country and stuff the do gooders
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