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				This statement from The Daily Mail is typical tabloid sensationalism   
He's had several weeks to prepare it!  
			
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 But has he licked the glue on the envelope yet.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-07-2022, 12:58
			
			
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				But has he licked the glue on the envelope yet. 
			
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 Nope. Like Johnson with his Brexit column, I'm sure he has written two responses. He just needs to ensure he puts the right one in the envelope!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2022, 13:01
			
			
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				Nope. Like Johnson with his Brexit column, I'm sure he has written two responses. He just needs to ensure he puts the right one in the envelope! 
			
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				I bet they're both boring    
			
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 One is probably less boring than the other.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2022, 13:25
			
			
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				Looks like Johnson was ambushed by a briefing... 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62047883
Mind you, probably no one told him it was a briefing, it probably only lasted 9 minutes, the briefing stayed inside a box all the time he was there, and it was a work-related briefing (just getting the excuses in...)  
			
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 No one told him.it was a briefing and he's now furious about it and get over it there's a war on
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				Grieve urges cabinet to act 
 
The former Conservative MP and attorney general Dominic Grieve - a long-standing critic of Boris Johnson - says that cabinet ministers "need to grasp this particular nettle". 
 
"This is yet another example of the prime minister being completely untrustworthy and directly contradicted by a former senior civil servant," he tells BBC News, adding that No 10 appears to have sent out ministers to "mislead the public on his behalf". 
 
"If I were in the position of the deputy prime minister I would go and see the prime minister today at lunchtime and I would say, I’m very sorry, but you’ve got to resign, and I have to tell you that if you're not resigning I am resigning from your government immediately." 
 
Describing Boris Johnson as "manifestly unfit to hold office," he says the Conservative Party is being damaged and may never recover.
			
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			05-07-2022, 13:41
			
			
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				I bet they're both boring    
			
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 If he's cleared and he doesn't hold a press conference drinking a few cans then what was the point of all this?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2022, 14:06
			
			
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				If he's cleared and he doesn't hold a press conference drinking a few cans then what was the point of all this? 
			
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 If he escapes justice it will have all been a farce.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				If he escapes justice it will have all been a farce. 
			
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 He won't have escaped justice as his case has been investigated by Durham Police. 
 
Justice often means clearing the innocent too. 
 
And given the time it's taken, you would hope it will have been investigated pretty thoroughly!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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The supposed reasons coming out are nothing short of an embarassment noe we get told by Ellis  that the PM has a "myriad array of urgent pressing responsibilities" and may be told "literally hundreds of things in one day"
 
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				He won't have escaped justice as his case has been investigated by Durham Police.  
 
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And given the time it's taken, you would hope it will have been investigated pretty thoroughly! 
			
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 I've seen the party pics and we now know he could get food at his hotel, I can also see Angie in the picture sat near him, he didn't even mention her,   therefore his whole story looks like a fabrication to me, I'm no legal expert but he looks and smells guilty to me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I've seen the party pics and we now know he could get food at his hotel, I can also see Angie in the picture sat near him, he didn't even mention her,   therefore his whole story looks like a fabrication to me, I'm no legal expert but he looks and smells guilty to me. 
			
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 She's a Labour party worker so it's fine for her to be there. The hotel stopped serving food at 9pm and not when they needed it.  
As you say, you're no legal expert and neither am I.  But based upon how Johnson's works parties were cleared, as long as everyone there was working for Labour, it was likely ok.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			BREAKING: It is being reported by Telegraph that Durham Police are meeting up this afternoon with CPS to discuss whether Keir Starmer should be fined regarding Beergate allegations.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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