Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[1andrew1]

Shouldn't the questionnaires be a higher number anyway as they will be sent to both witnesses and participants? The extra five would be the staff working at Miners Hall, take away, etc.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Not sure I actually said that but never mind.
Happy to go on record and say that if Johnson stays then the Conservatives will not win a majority at the next election.

OK, you’re on!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

OK, you’re on!

[papa smurf]

Sir beer ambushed by football shirt

Starmer’s Beergate own goal: Labour leader who said he'd been hard at work all day is pictured posing with football shirt on the same evening as THAT curry

Daily Mail can reveal that as well as eating a takeaway curry and drinking from a bottle of beer while campaigning in the North East, he also took time out to pose for a photograph and discuss a forthcoming football match.

It comes after the Labour leader changed his story again over the infamous event in Durham, admitting that ‘about 15’ people were present rather than six as he first claimed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-curry.html

What's wrong with posing with the football shirt of a local team? Makes it seem more like campaigning ....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

What's wrong with posing with the football shirt of a local team? Makes it seem more like campaigning ....

He claimed he was working not posing and discussing the footy, as far as i can see he hasn't got a very good relationship with the truth,6 people turned into 15, Angie wasn't there then she was, there was no where to eat but there was, the curry n beer was spontaneous but was actually organised ..........

[tweetiepooh]

Politicians (and lawyers) are masters of speaking the truth differently. They don't actually lie (intentionally) but what they say may not really be true as anyone else knows it. It's why they coach their phrases like "As far as I was aware/know/knew/informed". That way when challenged they can truthfully say that that is not exactly what they said.



Personally I'd like to see the weasels leaking this detail identified and investigated. It's one thing to bring to attention matters that really affect the nation and how it's run but this reporting of minor matters like cake or curry is really just nasty. A simple report to the police who then investigate and fine appropriately is possibly OK but think how you would feel if someone reported you for flexing the rules a little bit - there were 7 people in that gathering not the limit of 6.


We had to put up notices for our archery as an allowed activity because it's likely some dogooder could report that a group of people are gathered on a field together.

Mind with all the booze on offer it's not surprising that so many can't remember a thing about anything.

Originally Posted by Damien

What's wrong with posing with the football shirt of a local team? Makes it seem more like campaigning ....

There is a lot wrong with it. Doesn’t come across as “Essential work”, to meet in doors, with other people, such as the photographer, his own team of 15 people, he’s not household members with, also presumably, someone from that specific club, all of which, that was not permitted under the coronavirus restrictions, Keir himself, voted for. You’re also forgetting campaigning was only allowed to be done outdoors, at the time.

If the Prime Minister can’t pose with a birthday cake, in his own place of work, without the consequences of a fine, Keir Starmer shouldn’t be allowed to pose in a football shirt. Granted the restrictions had been relaxed by the time of Beergate event, but the rules were not all that dissimilar.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sir beer ambushed by football shirt

Starmer’s Beergate own goal: Labour leader who said he'd been hard at work all day is pictured posing with football shirt on the same evening as THAT curry

Daily Mail can reveal that as well as eating a takeaway curry and drinking from a bottle of beer while campaigning in the North East, he also took time out to pose for a photograph and discuss a forthcoming football match.

It comes after the Labour leader changed his story again over the infamous event in Durham, admitting that ‘about 15’ people were present rather than six as he first claimed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-curry.html

And for a bit of balance because as you well know politicians take any chance they can to look like a normal in-touch person....

Oh look an article with a photo of Boris posing with a footy shirt during a by election campaign in 2021. Strange though, the article also questions the expenditure on a private jet used to ferry free loading Bozza around too, so to sum up a footy shirt and and accusations of being bent to boot.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Politicians (and lawyers) are masters of speaking the truth differently. They don't actually lie (intentionally) but what they say may not really be true as anyone else knows it. It's why they coach their phrases like "As far as I was aware/know/knew/informed". That way when challenged they can truthfully say that that is not exactly what they said.

Personally I'd like to see the weasels leaking this detail identified and investigated. It's one thing to bring to attention matters that really affect the nation and how it's run but this reporting of minor matters like cake or curry is really just nasty. A simple report to the police who then investigate and fine appropriately is possibly OK but think how you would feel if someone reported you for flexing the rules a little bit - there were 7 people in that gathering not the limit of 6.

We had to put up notices for our archery as an allowed activity because it's likely some dogooder could report that a group of people are gathered on a field together.

Politicians (and lawyers) are masters of speaking the truth differently. They don't actually lie (intentionally) but what they say may not really be true as anyone else knows it. It's why they coach their phrases like "As far as I was aware/know/knew/informed". That way when challenged they can truthfully say that that is not exactly what they said.

Hmmm. I doubt that I need to provide evidence to the contrary of what you've written!

Personally I'd like to see the weasels leaking this detail identified and investigated. It's one thing to bring to attention matters that really affect the nation and how it's run but this reporting of minor matters like cake or curry is really just nasty. A simple report to the police who then investigate and fine appropriately is possibly OK but think how you would feel if someone reported you for flexing the rules a little bit - there were 7 people in that gathering not the limit of 6.

Whistle blowers provide an important protection by way of reporting political shenanagans.

We had to put up notices for our archery as an allowed activity because it's likely some dogooder could report that a group of people are gathered on a field together.

The lying done by politicians is a far cry from the Women's Institute Archery Club of Nether-Widdicombe!

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

And for a bit of balance because as you well know politicians take any chance they can to look like a normal in-touch person....

Oh look an article with a photo of Boris posing with a footy shirt during a by election campaign in 2021. Strange though, the article also questions the expenditure on a private jet used to ferry free loading Bozza around too, so to sum up a footy shirt and and accusations of being bent to boot.

Well, that’s not really adding balance, campaigning outdoors was allowed.

You mention free-loading Bozza, not sure what’s bent about using allocated travel expenditure.

So in Labour’s case, who paid for the travel for Keir Starmer and his 15 people or more, to get to Durham, the £200 curry bill, money paid for all the alcohol at the Miners Hall event?

Yet, Boris not allowed to spend a dime, but it’s okay for Labour to, seriously?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hmmm. I doubt that I need to provide evidence to the contrary of what you've written!

Agreed.

A short visit to the Full Fact website will show politicians of all colours repeating information they've been told is wrong.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Whistle blowers provide an important protection by way of reporting political shenanagans.

Spot on!

BREAKING: Met Police concludes investigation into Downing Street lockdown breaches with 126 fines issued

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/met-polic...-issued/298304

[Sephiroth]

Roll on Sue Gray!