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				BREAKING: Russia has declared that it is not at war with NATO, as senior U.S Defence Official doubts Kremlins Nuclear weapons threats. - Sky News. 
			
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 Russia possibly twigging for the first time that its recent blood-curdling rhetoric may in some way be responsible for provoking the massive buildup of NATO military assets on its borders …
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-04-2022, 10:49
			
			
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				Russia possibly twigging for the first time that its recent blood-curdling rhetoric may in some way be responsible for provoking the massive buildup of NATO military assets on its borders … 
			
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			30-04-2022, 16:33
			
			
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			Ouch that had to hurt 
moment Chechen commander killed while boasting about victories
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			Russia's foreign minister has been criticised for claiming Adolf Hitler "had Jewish origins" and "some of the worst antisemites are Jews". 
 
Sergei Lavrov hit out at Ukraine's president during an interview with Italian media, saying Volodymyr Zelenskyy's Jewish ancestry "doesn't mean anything" while trying to justify Vladimir Putin's call to "denazify" the nation. 
 
When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, President Putin described it as a "special military operation" to remove leaders he claimed were neo-Nazis. 
 
Israel has called Mr Lavrov's remarks "unforgiveable" and summoned Russia's ambassador for an explanation. - Sky News
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-05-2022, 20:33
			
			
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			TBH Israel have to an extent hedged their bets a bit on Ukraine and it would be good to see them have a more unequivocal approach to this topic.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-05-2022, 20:53
			
			
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				TBH Israel have to an extent hedged their bets a bit on Ukraine and it would be good to see them have a more unequivocal approach to this topic. 
			
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 What's your point in terms of Lavrov's assertion? The "TBH" suggests a link. 
 
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				What's your point in terms of Lavrov's assertion? The "TBH" suggests a link. 
 
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 TBH = To be Honest. Just a way to introduce a random point really. Otherwise it's a freestanding observation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				"some of the worst antisemites are Jews". 
 
Israel has called Mr Lavrov's remarks "unforgiveable" and summoned Russia's ambassador for an explanation. - Sky News 
			
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 But it's okay for them to call Jews criticising Israel and zionists  self hating Jews, cake and eat it springs to mind...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				TBH Israel have to an extent hedged their bets a bit on Ukraine and it would be good to see them have a more unequivocal approach to this topic. 
			
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 Would be good to see them provide Ukraine with their Iron Dome defence system. However, Israel seems to be in an informal alliance with Russia in Syria so that's unlikely. And like other Middle Eastern countries, it's shown little enthusiasm to impose sanctions on Russia.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Musing : even if Russia have to withdraw they could make such a mess of Ukraine that the latter can't farm effectively for a season giving Russia a big market for wheat and other products that the world "needs". Even if we don't like it we may have to lump it and pay Russia's price.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Musing : even if Russia have to withdraw they could make such a mess of Ukraine that the latter can't farm effectively for a season giving Russia a big market for wheat and other products that the world "needs". Even if we don't like it we may have to lump it and pay Russia's price. 
			
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 Good point.  If Russia finally have to accept that they cannot take Ukraine, they may well decide to cause as much destruction as possible out of pure spite.  Like a spoilt child.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Musing : even if Russia have to withdraw they could make such a mess of Ukraine that the latter can't farm effectively for a season giving Russia a big market for wheat and other products that the world "needs". Even if we don't like it we may have to lump it and pay Russia's price. 
			
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 Not a lot they can do there as they occupy very little of the farming areas of Ukraine
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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