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			[QUOTE=1andrew1;36119470]Misleading the house about laws you introduced and told the country to follow is far more important than doing 31 in a 30 limit. As I've explained before, the laws were about banning social gatherings and not about cake.[COLOR="Silver"] 
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So let's find every office ,shop, or ANY type of workers that had a cup of tea in the same room !!!   
 It's also is a matter of interpretation , as to what happened and we all know how trustworthy the met  police are .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			19-04-2022, 19:45
			
			
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				Misleading the house about laws you introduced and told the country to follow is far more important than doing 31 in a 30 limit. As I've explained before, the laws were about banning social gatherings and not about cake.[COLOR="Silver"] 
 
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 So let's find every office ,shop, or ANY type of workers that had a cup of tea in the same room !!!    
			
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 Did they set the rules and remind us every day on TV and other media to keep to the rules?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				So, you’re not influenced, but you believe others are? 
 
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 Loyal to whom?
 
At 68 yrs of age I've probably voted 5 times maximum . . .  the ones I can remember: 
Way back in the common market vote (against) 
Once in local elections for BNP as a 'protest' vote 
Once for Conservatives I think (can't remember why though) 
Once for leaving the EU
 
There might be a 5th, there might not be.  There are people though who loyally vote for a party because their family have always done so . .  although is that loyalty to family or party?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Did they set the rules and remind us every day on TV and other media to keep to the rules? 
			
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  However they were working together , if it had been tea and biscuits would there have been all this fuss. ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				However they were working together , if it had been tea and biscuits would there have been all this fuss. ? 
			
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 It was all about social gatherings, not about cake.
 
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				Gatherings of more than two people inside were banned by law. An exception was allowed if the gathering "was reasonably necessary" for work purposes.
			
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				oh definitely   
Loyal to whom?
 
At 68 yrs of age I've probably voted 5 times maximum . . .  the ones I can remember: 
Way back in the common market vote (against) 
Once in local elections for BNP as a 'protest' vote 
Once for Conservatives I think (can't remember why though) 
Once for leaving the EU
 
There might be a 5th, there might not be.  There are people though who loyally vote for a party because their family have always done so . .  although is that loyalty to family or party?  
			
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 Have just voted in council elections , Postal ballot, 4 votes ,1each green / plaid cymru,lib dem, labour and Tory  Reason they give there addresses as being in the village . The others wouldn't say we're they live, At least I might have a faint hope of seeing them around in the next four years. Not that most have a hope of winning , we have at the moment 4 Tory's   others mp , Am are labour with a Tory picking up the second choice vote. Unfortunately my votes will be seen as a vote against Boris . It's nothing to do with him
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Well you're loyal, no one can accuse you otherwise. 
			
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 In that case I think most people not working from home and in a building  over that time will have broken that rule .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				In that case I think most people not working from home and in a building  over that time will have broken that rule . 
			
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 Apparently it's ok to break the rules as long as you didn't make them.
 
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				These are laws his Government implemented and which he went on TV multiple times to tell people to obey. If he really didn't understand them then he is grossly incompetent. 
			
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 Unless, of course, the Met have got it wrong…again.
 
This really is a petty matter and not deserving of the huge amount of fuss that has been generated. To refer to a presentation of a birthday cake in a 9-minute break between work events as a party is pretty OTT and shows how desperate people are to push out of office the one man that people agreed could get Brexit done and get this country up and running…and prevent the Labour Party from getting back into power.
 
I say to those people, enjoy the moment, because it will soon pass and you will be back to square one. Brexit has happened, Covid is all but thwarted, the killjoy scientists are vanquished, parties are back on the to-do list and all is getting back to normal.
 
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				Unless, of course, the Met have got it wrong…again. 
 
This really is a petty matter and not deserving of the huge amount of fuss that has been generated. To refer to a presentation of a birthday cake in a 9-minute break between work events as a party is pretty OTT and shows how desperate people are to push out of office the one man that people agreed could get Brexit done and get this country up and running…and prevent the Labour Party from getting back into power. 
 
I say to those people, enjoy the moment, because it will soon pass and you will be back to square one. Brexit has happened, Covid is all but thwarted, the killjoy scientists are vanquished, parties are back on the to-do list and all is getting back to normal. 
 
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 Mmmmm…
 
Some fairly major cognitive dissonance there…   
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				Unless, of course, the Met have got it wrong…again. 
 
This really is a petty matter and not deserving of the huge amount of fuss that has been generated. To refer to a presentation of a birthday cake in a 9-minute break between work events as a party is pretty OTT and shows how desperate people are to push out of office the one man that people agreed could get Brexit done and get this country up and running…and prevent the Labour Party from getting back into power. 
 
I say to those people, enjoy the moment, because it will soon pass and you will be back to square one. Brexit has happened, Covid is all but thwarted, the killjoy scientists are vanquished, parties are back on the to-do list and all is getting back to normal. 
 
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 And therein lies your problem.  You’re so utterly blinded by your belief that this must all somehow be part of one big tribal culture war that you’re left defending indefensible behaviour perpetrated by an entitled narcissist - not to mention shredding what little remaining credibility you had as a contributor here.  A pity.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Apparently it's ok to break the rules as long as you didn't make them. 
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 I think there's plenty of people £50+ worse off who would have been grateful for your legal advices on how to avoid paying their fines but have coughed up in apparent ignorance.  
 
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				And therein lies your problem.  You’re so utterly blinded by your belief that this must all somehow be part of one big tribal culture war that you’re left defending indefensible behaviour perpetrated by an entitled narcissist - not to mention shredding what little remaining credibility you had as a contributor here.  A pity. 
			
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 A realistic Conservative like many I chatted to over Easter wanted Johnson gone when the parties first came out. Even more so now as the goodwill over Ukraine would belong to a new Conservative PM on the ascent and not Johnson on his way out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I think there's plenty of people £50+ worse off who would have been grateful for your legal advices on how to avoid paying their fines but have coughed up in apparent ignorance. 
 
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A realistic Conservative like many I chatted to over Easter wanted Johnson gone when the parties first came out. Even more so now as the goodwill over Ukraine would belong to a new Conservative PM on the ascent and not Johnson on his way out. 
			
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 Trouble is - who?  Those on manoeuvres are none-of-the-above to me. 
 
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