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01-04-2022, 17:45
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Does the term "false equivalence" mean anything to you?
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Leaving parties don't count the same as a dinner break, is that really what your saying 
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01-04-2022, 20:15
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Does the term "false equivalence" mean anything to you?
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Absolutely, unlike some posters on here! 
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I can’t believe that you are inferring that OLD BOY would use exaggerated or oversimplified comparisons…  |
Perish the thought. There’s no way I could compete with you, Hugh!
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02-04-2022, 12:16
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I can’t believe that you are inferring that OLD BOY would use exaggerated or oversimplified comparisons… |
Me? 
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03-04-2022, 19:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by daveeb
I don't really understand any of that, but the point is nobody should have been having any parties least of all those who decided we couldn't have them and made it a criminal offence to do so.
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Welsh AMS have a booze up in the restaurant of the assembly . No body cared are it was noted that they were labour AMs . Died a death in the "press" police not interested  ps Welsh AMs made the law in Wales 
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04-04-2022, 23:25
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Are we still waiting for Sue Gray’s full report before we decide if any rules/laws were broken?
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www....rtygate-fines/
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It means that fixed penalty notices have been issued to attendees of three of the dozen “partygate” events investigated by the Metropolitan Police…
… Scotland Yard has said it has issued 20 fines over the dozen events in Downing Street and Cabinet Office buildings alleged to have broken lockdown rules.
More fines are expected.
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05-04-2022, 00:00
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Yes, and the conclusion of the police investigation.
Boris has not been personally implicated so far, much to the disappointment of his detractors.
It’s all beginning to look like fluff, wouldn’t you say, Hugh?
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05-04-2022, 10:17
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yes, and the conclusion of the police investigation.
Boris has not been personally implicated so far, much to the disappointment of his detractors.
It’s all beginning to look like fluff, wouldn’t you say, Hugh?
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No! His faithful followers will see to it that someone else will take the blame by throwing themselves under the bus.
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05-04-2022, 12:07
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yes, and the conclusion of the police investigation.
Boris has not been personally implicated so far, much to the disappointment of his detractors.
It’s all beginning to look like fluff, wouldn’t you say, Hugh?
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I imagine it's taking a bit of time to tot up Johnson's fines.
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05-04-2022, 12:21
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I imagine it's taking a bit of time to tot up Johnson's fines. |
We must await the Sue Gray report before imagining conclusions.
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05-04-2022, 12:36
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
We must await the Sue Gray report before imagining conclusions.
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We must await the Sue Gray report which will be published after the May election to avoid national politics having an undemocratic impact on voting in what are really local elections.
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05-04-2022, 12:53
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yes, and the conclusion of the police investigation.
Boris has not been personally implicated so far, much to the disappointment of his detractors.
It’s all beginning to look like fluff, wouldn’t you say, Hugh?
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No, I wouldn’t…
You appear to be stating that we need to wait till the end of the police investigation to understand if any laws have been broken, even though three groups of people have already been given fixed penalty notices for breaking the law…
Johnson has admitted attending three of the twelve parties under investigation - you appear to be pre-judging the outcome…
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05-04-2022, 16:44
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Hugh
No, I wouldn’t…
You appear to be stating that we need to wait till the end of the police investigation to understand if any laws have been broken, even though three groups of people have already been given fixed penalty notices for breaking the law…
Johnson has admitted attending three of the twelve parties under investigation - you appear to be pre-judging the outcome… |
"Let's wait until the Sue Gray report is published" is what Old Boys tells us all to do but then he breaks those rules himself!
Reminds me of something else.
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05-04-2022, 19:14
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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"Let's wait until the Sue Gray report is published" is what Old Boys tells us all to do but then he breaks those rules himself!
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remember the tories can never do anything wrong according to OB his rose tinted glasses are on forever
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05-04-2022, 19:44
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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remember the tories can never do anything wrong according to OB his rose tinted glasses are on forever
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Hmmm - something not quite right there.
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05-04-2022, 20:45
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Maggy
No! His faithful followers will see to it that someone else will take the blame by throwing themselves under the bus.
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Are we actually interested in the evidence or is this just a personal vendetta?
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
We must await the Sue Gray report which will be published after the May election to avoid national politics having an undemocratic impact on voting in what are really local elections. |
It will be published when the police investigation is completed.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
No, I wouldn’t…
You appear to be stating that we need to wait till the end of the police investigation to understand if any laws have been broken, even though three groups of people have already been given fixed penalty notices for breaking the law…
Johnson has admitted attending three of the twelve parties under investigation - you appear to be pre-judging the outcome… |
I’m not pre-judging anything - you are.
I am aware of the fines, but Boris has not had one, and I don’t think he will either, from what I have read, but yes, there may be things that have not come out yet. As long as he is not found to have broken the rules personally, there is no case for him to answer.
Boris has not admitted to attending any parties. He may have attended work events, but he would say they were not parties. Whether or not that is true is for the police to judge.
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"Let's wait until the Sue Gray report is published" is what Old Boys tells us all to do but then he breaks those rules himself!
Reminds me of something else. |
I’ve given my opinion, sure, but I have always maintained that it is for the police to judge whether or not that is correct.
You, however, seem to have abandoned any notion of proof before judgement, which I find rather worrying. Let’s hope you are never falsely accused of anything.
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