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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
I knew there was a thread about the No 10 parties. Don't understand why I couldn't find it ... maybe time to revisit Specsavers. Here's the link I gave yesterday about " Partygate: Met Police to issue first fines" which prompted OB's posts. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60906757
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30-03-2022, 12:37
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.
For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".
But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.
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30-03-2022, 12:54
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.
For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".
But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.
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I agree. Also who would actually want to take his place. Any Conservative MP would have to see that becoming PM at this stage would be a Kiss of Death to their future career aspirations.
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30-03-2022, 12:55
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
It's the comments I'm seeing on FB that annoy me the most.Implying that it's no big issue that he and his team at number 10 didn't obey the rules.If we don't find those in charge accountable at ANY point then why bother having any kind of democracy?
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30-03-2022, 12:57
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I reckon that a lot of people will be very sore at the No. 10 goings on and will not accept that Boris was oblivious to any of this.
For what my view is worth, any credit given to Boris for supporting Ukraine, minus the visa shambles, would not absolve him from presiding over "one law for the plebs and another for No. 10".
But, should he resign? Let's put it this way: If there was anyone else worthy of running the ship, yes - he should resign. I can't stand the man for all the reasons I've previously given. Expect a Tory wipe out of sorts instead.
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I think we need to wait for Sue Gray’s report, which will be published in full once the police investigation is over and done with. Too many assumptions are being made and for all we know, Boris may well have been in the dark about these goings on.
He has restructured his No 10 team in response to what he has discovered. If he is found to have been complicit in all this, fair enough, but let’s get the facts before we pass final judgement.
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30-03-2022, 13:02
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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It's the comments I'm seeing on FB that annoy me the most.Implying that it's no big issue that he and his team at number 10 didn't obey the rules.If we don't find those in charge accountable at ANY point then why bother having any kind of democracy?
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Absolutely agree. I stopped reading the comments in most of my old haunts some time ago.
 Those that I do still read, such as here, I have found myself writing a comment then deleting it as I know it will only prompt either sarky comments or be totally ignored.
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30-03-2022, 13:08
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I think we need to wait for Sue Gray’s report, which will be published in full once the police investigation is over and done with. Too many assumptions are being made and for all we know, Boris may well have been in the dark about these goings on.
He has restructured his No 10 team in response to what he has discovered. If he is found to have been complicit in all this, fair enough, but let’s get the facts before we pass final judgement.
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What has already been published from the Sue Gray report damns him. His own house and he was photographed being present.
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Absolutely agree. I stopped reading the comments in most of my old haunts some time ago.
Those that I do still read, such as here, I have found myself writing a comment then deleting it as I know it will only prompt either sarky comments or be totally ignored. |
The "sarky comments" are the ones that make for the most fun!
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30-03-2022, 13:09
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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What has already been published from the Sue Gray report damns him. His own house and he was photographed being present.
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No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?
I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.
Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.
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30-03-2022, 13:15
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?
I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.
Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.
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OB, Boris is an open book - he lies openly, he attends No. 10 parties openly (see photo), had to apologise to Parliament.
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30-03-2022, 13:44
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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OB, Boris is an open book - he lies openly, he attends No. 10 parties openly (see photo), had to apologise to Parliament.
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Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.
He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.
Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.
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30-03-2022, 15:11
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.
He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.
Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.
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My mind is closed in terms my opinion of Boris; an insincere man interested in his own aggrandisement.
If the Gray report is very clear that Boris did not break the law, then I'll accept that. Any weasel wording, then my mind remains closed.
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30-03-2022, 17:52
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.
He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.
Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.
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From the other thread
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I am talking about the waste of so many questions on Question Time in the house that he wasted on this nonsense, accusing the PM of being personally responsible.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60925233
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Lockdown parties: PM accepts responsibility over rule breaches, says Dominic Raab
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30-03-2022, 18:42
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Had party really don't care , we had one in the restaurant at the sendd , no one did anything about the am,s at that ,but they were labour
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30-03-2022, 19:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Had party really don't care , we had one in the restaurant at the sendd , no one did anything about the am,s at that ,but they were labour
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I don't really understand any of that, but the point is nobody should have been having any parties least of all those who decided we couldn't have them and made it a criminal offence to do so.
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30-03-2022, 21:08
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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No, it doesn’t. That is only part of the evidence. Where is the context?
I think too many people are applying the ‘gotcha’ mentality without even caring whether it’s the truth or not.
Well, I want the truth, not the speculation or the slant some like to put on this.
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Classic Old Boy, where have you been the last few weeks? How I've missed your middle of the road mindset.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Clearly, Seph, your mind is closed now and no amount of factual information will persuade you otherwise.
He has apologised to Parliament for the actions of his staff, not for his own conduct.
Not long to wait now. Let’s not go round in another circle until we have the actual facts.
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And the classics continue, just do a find and replace for Seph to Old Boy.....
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