Russia has invaded Ukraine

[Jaymoss]

Putin has got to feel that hatred towards him

[pip08456]

Is Belarus about to assist Putin in the invasion of Ukraine?
This from a journalist in Minsk, Belarus (Hanna Liubakova) though I haven't seen it reported elsewhere.

11 employees of the Belarusian embassy left Ukraine. The last employee crossed the border today at 9 am. This is quite worrying

Originally Posted by pip08456

Is Belarus about to assist Putin in the invasion of Ukraine?
This from a journalist in Minsk, Belarus (Hanna Liubakova) though I haven't seen it reported elsewhere.

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-701765

The Belarusian Ambassador to Ukraine Igor Sokil stated that the embassy has completed the evacuation of its staff, according to Belarusian state agency BelTA.

The ambassador cited "intolerable working conditions" as the reasoning for the evacuation - in particular, all financial accounts of the embassy were blocked, and the embassy staff allegedly faced "threats of physical violence."

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Russian Embassy in the UK calls on Government/Ofcom to revoke BBC’s license because RT’s was revoked earlier today:

They ought to watch what they say. Considering current circumstances, the fact that they are living in our country and the fact that there is bound to (wrongly) be some general anti Russian feeling amongst the population of the UK, they could be targeted with violent or non violent direct action.

[Sephiroth]

It was a disgrace to revoke RT's licence. It should be on air so we can see what (rubbish) they are saying. Free speech is everything and RT wouldn't incite any violence in the UK.

[RichardCoulter]

The late BBC1 news reported that the mayor of (Maripol?) says that several thousand captured residents (mainly women & children, but particular interest was taken in taking away young men) have forcibly been deported to Russia. Some have been taken to remote Russian cities and the whereabouts of others is unknown.

Russia says that thousands of people have asked to be taken to Russia.

The BBC said that, again, there are two different narratives and that they have not been able to independently verify the situation.

Are soldiers allowed to take away civilians, or would this be another war crime? If true, this is getting more and more like WWII all the time.

It's been said that NATO is several times more powerful than Russia. It's a shame they can't go into Russia and tell the Russian people that they have nothing to fear and that they only want Putin and anyone else connected to the terrible things that he's done. I suppose they're afraid that he'll send out a nuclear bomb before they get chance to find him though.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It was a disgrace to revoke RT's licence. It should be on air so we can see what (rubbish) they are saying. Free speech is everything and RT wouldn't incite any violence in the UK.

Ofcom had no choice because they breached the broadcasting code and had 27 complaints outstanding.

We know they're talking rubbish, but the trouble is that some will believe it. It was shocking that such blatant propaganda was being beamed into British homes.

Free speech also carries responsibilities and standards of appropriateness, truth being high up the list.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

I don’t want to read anti-Brexiteer crap, in a thread about Russia invading Ukraine.

Shame you weren't about to give bozo this advice, he compared the Ukranians struggle to Brexit yesterday. He's going to get a lot if heat over it and rightly so, the fact it detracts from a message to China makes it worse, such an idiotic, juvenile thing to say, as well as being about as different and wrong as you can be to boot

Originally Posted by Hugh

Russian cosmonauts arrive at ISS in colours of Ukraine flag

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2...fe9eb008d63578

Apparently that just so happens to be the colours of the university they all went to, is that true I don't know but I suspect they would have had their suits sorted out before the invasion started?

Originally Posted by Chris

Come in, Agent Abramovich, your cover’s blown …

Seems he doesn't want to sell to anyone whose country has sanctioned Russia, that just might make finding a buyer considerably harder unless there's any Martians considering a bid as apparently even the Chinese are quietly joining in now on their own terms

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It was a disgrace to revoke RT's licence. It should be on air so we can see what (rubbish) they are saying. Free speech is everything and RT wouldn't incite any violence in the UK.

I remember listening to a translated Russian radio news broadcast from the cold War where they said riots had broken out in the food queues and we were all starving, wish I'd paid more attention but I was a very small boy at the time, my mother found it very amusing though.

[pip08456]

Ukraine hasn't been able to confirm the type of the missile.

But unnamed U.S. officials told CNN that Russia had indeed launched hypersonic missiles against Ukraine, the first known use of such missiles in combat.

Kyiv Independant.

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There are so many dead & wounded Russian soldiers in Homel region, Belarus, that they've started loading corpses on trains at night "so as not to attract attention." 2,500 KIA sent back to Russia, hospital staff say. That's 5x the official number.

https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-morg...wZhlId3wXLW_Uw

[1andrew1]

Belarusian railway workers today sabotaged the railway lines leading to Ukraine, making it impossible for the Russians to resupply by train.

The Russian logistics situation near Kyiv just went from bad to worse.

It’s the largest sabotage action in Belarus so far during this war.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...60472492347395

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Shame you weren't about to give bozo this advice, he compared the Ukranians struggle to Brexit yesterday. He's going to get a lot if heat over it and rightly so, the fact it detracts from a message to China makes it worse, such an idiotic, juvenile thing to say, as well as being about as different and wrong as you can be to boot



Apparently that just so happens to be the colours of the university they all went to, is that true I don't know but I suspect they would have had their suits sorted out before the invasion started?



Seems he doesn't want to sell to anyone whose country has sanctioned Russia, that just might make finding a buyer considerably harder unless there's any Martians considering a bid as apparently even the Chinese are quietly joining in now on their own terms

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I remember listening to a translated Russian radio news broadcast from the cold War where they said riots had broken out in the food queues and we were all starving, wish I'd paid more attention but I was a very small boy at the time, my mother found it very amusing though.

I would've thought if it were the University colours one of the cosmonaughts would have just said so instead of this.

On Saturday (March 19), the Russian space agency released a statement quoting Artemyev responding to questions about the Ukraine-flag color choice: "There is no need to look for any hidden signs or symbols in our uniform. A colour is simply a colour. It is not in any way connected to Ukraine. Otherwise, we would have to recognise its rights to the yellow sun in the blue sky," Artemyev said. "These days, even though we are in space, we are together with our president and our people!"

https://www.livescience.com/why-russ...ne-flag-colors

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I would've thought if it were the University colours one of the cosmonaughts would have just said so instead of this.



https://www.livescience.com/why-russ...ne-flag-colors

I'd have thought they had their suits sorted out before the invasion started but as you're interested I take it you looked up the university, just to be sure? Bauman Moscow State Technical University.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I'd have thought they had their suits sorted out before the invasion started but as you're interested I take it you looked up the university, just to be sure? Bauman Moscow State Technical University.

Why look up the university? You said you didn't know if it was true. I merely quoted a Cosmonaught statement on it and opined if it were the university colours why didn't he just say so.

BTW they aren't technically suits, just akin to overalls, but yes I do think they are ordered weeks in advance. There isn't anything special about them though and could have been replaced at short notice.

On another note those pesky Ukrainian farmers are at it again.

[pip08456]

Ukraine rejects Russia's demand to surrender Mariupol.

Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk responded to Russia by stating that surrender is not an option. The letter from Russia’s Defense Ministry said it would only establish a humanitarian corridor if Mariupol surrenders.

Source The Kyiv Independant.

This is recommended viewing of Putins viewpoint. Not the only one either.

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/stat...01691924135937

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Your moral equivalence setting may need some slight adjustment…

Originally Posted by pip08456

Ukraine rejects Russia's demand to surrender Mariupol.

Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk responded to Russia by stating that surrender is not an option. The letter from Russia’s Defense Ministry said it would only establish a humanitarian corridor if Mariupol surrenders.

Source The Kyiv Independant.

This is recommended viewing of Putins viewpoint. Not the only one either.

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/stat...01691924135937

From Twatter:

“ What happens around Mariupol in the next few days should reveal alot about the state of the Russian Army--in a ghastly way. The 'demand' that the city be surrendered was really a plea. Saying to the Ukrainians, 'we really dont want to send our army into the town.'” - Phillips O’Brien, Professor of Strategic Studies at St Andrews. One of the highly illuminating academics I’ve been following over the past few weeks.

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/...403091464?s=21