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					Originally Posted by Chris  It does.  You do have to submit yourself to the annual inconvenience of submitting a self-assessment tax return but it’s worth it.  You can claim tax relief on a number of home office expenses (unless your employer is paying those expenses to you of course).  You can also claim for wear and tear and additional insurance costs.  My taxable income was reduced by just under £1,000 last year by this means. |  You can probably do that for PAYE to, I do for other things most years but haven't bothered for the last couple, saving them up! 
 
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  You can probably do that for PAYE to, I do for other things most years but haven't bothered for the last couple, saving them up!  
My father in law got his electric and gas bill for the last 18 months today, £10 000      goodness knows what it'll be in the next eighteen months and it certainly puts my up to 20 quid a month rise in to perspective    |  It must cost quite a lot to heat that indoor swimming pool.     
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			How the heck can his bills be that high?  Is he heating an open-air swimming pool?    |  
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					Originally Posted by Chris  How the heck can his bills be that high?  Is he heating an open-air swimming pool?   |  It's £550 odd a month by my reckoning, they do use a lot of gas and electric but this is before the rises have really kicked in, father in law is quite blasé about it but  I think I'm going to get his daughter on the case, it's her inheritance after all!
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					Originally Posted by Chris  It does.  You do have to submit yourself to the annual inconvenience of submitting a self-assessment tax return but it’s worth it.  You can claim tax relief on a number of home office expenses (unless your employer is paying those expenses to you of course).  You can also claim for wear and tear and additional insurance costs.  My taxable income was reduced by just under £1,000 last year by this means. |  Its what accountants are for.    
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		| UK homes face fresh energy pain with price cap set to hit £2,400 this year 
 The calculation by energy consultancy EnAppSys for the Financial Times underlines that the country’s looming cost-of-living crisis is likely to be protracted as wholesale gas prices continue to trade at historically high levels.
 
 The price cap, introduced in 2019 to protect the bills of roughly 15m households who do not opt for fixed-price deals, is already set to rise by more than 50 per cent in April to £2,000 a year from £1,277, based on average usage.
 
 Ofgem, the energy market regulator, sets the level of the cap twice a year with the next change after April’s due in October. Using the latest market pricing, EnAppSys estimates that later this year the cap could hit between £2,300 and £2,400, unless the government and regulator intervene to relieve pressure on consumers.
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			Together Energy Retail has stopped trading, affecting 176,000 households. 
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		| Together Energy Retail, which has about 176,000 domestic customers, was part-owned by Warrington Borough Council. 
 The council, which spent £18m on a 50% stake in the firm in 2019, said it was "disappointed" the firm had gone under, but defended its investment decision.
 
 Ofgem said a new supplier would be found for the company's customers and that energy supply would continue.
 
 A total of 28 energy suppliers, mostly smaller firms, have stopped trading in the UK since August, affecting millions of customers.
 
 In a statement on its website, Together Energy said the "sustained increase in wholesale prices and the securities required to continue to forward purchase the energy", made the firm's situation "untenable".
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					Originally Posted by joglynne   |  Sorry for everyone affected, but ridiculous for a council to invest so much money in an energy supplier.
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		|  18-01-2022, 22:50 | #414 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Sorry for everyone affected, but ridiculous for a council to invest so much money in an energy supplier. |  Our council invested in Icelandic banks and that didn't end well.
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Our council invested in Icelandic banks and that didn't end well. |  I think that was slightly different as they were on a panel of approved banks for councils to put their cash in. Not a 50% stake in a commercial company.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  It does.  You do have to submit yourself to the annual inconvenience of submitting a self-assessment tax return but it’s worth it.  You can claim tax relief on a number of home office expenses (unless your employer is paying those expenses to you of course).  You can also claim for wear and tear and additional insurance costs.  My taxable income was reduced by just under £1,000 last year by this means. |  I'm on Self Assessment anyway due to my business and investment interests, my accountant sorts it all out.
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		|  28-01-2022, 14:12 | #418 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1   |   So when did the UK run out of gas? 
The UK only depends on Russia for 3% of gas, Western Europe relies on 40%. They are the ones with the bigger problem.
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		|  28-01-2022, 15:33 | #419 |  
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			We haven't 'run out' of gas, but it's sold to those who will pay more than the UK to have it   
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		|  28-01-2022, 15:39 | #420 |  
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					Originally Posted by nomadking  So when did the UK run out of gas?The UK only depends on Russia for 3% of gas, Western Europe relies on 40%. They are the ones with the bigger problem.
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