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26-01-2022, 18:15
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Thats complete nonsense.
John Major took over from Maggie without any new election.
Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair with no new election.
Major was elected again 2 years later, while still leader of the party, Brown wasnt, as labout lost the election 3 years later.
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Yeah, he is just trying to scare MPs that if they change leader they might lose their seats but the 2019 intake likely followed politics before 2019 
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26-01-2022, 18:39
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Yeah, he is just trying to scare MPs that if they change leader they might lose their seats but the 2019 intake likely followed politics before 2019 |
Honestly, does he think they're all thick or something just because they don't have Eton accents? 
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26-01-2022, 18:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Honestly, does he think they're all thick or something just because they don't have Eton accents? |
He's saying the public won't accept it.
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26-01-2022, 18:59
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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He's saying the public won't accept it.
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The public have done all the time though, well used to it by now.
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26-01-2022, 19:28
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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He's saying the public won't accept it.
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How would he know - did he ask his nanny?
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26-01-2022, 19:30
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The public have done all the time though, well used to it by now.
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Conservative voters might be ok with it, but others may feel robbed of an election unless they know they can't win.
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26-01-2022, 19:37
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Conservative voters might be ok with it, but others may feel robbed of an election unless they know they can't win.
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I dont recall anyone feeling robbed when Major took over from Thatcher, or Brown took over from Blair.
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26-01-2022, 19:44
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I dont recall anyone feeling robbed when Major took over from Thatcher, or Brown took over from Blair.
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i did.
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26-01-2022, 20:11
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Sir limp biscuit fails again, what a pathetic waste of space this man is.
And the humble crofter still playing the same broken record.
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He who ate all the cakes. 
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26-01-2022, 20:42
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Oh, you clever boy. Just one thing:
Intervene: To take part in something so as to prevent or alter a result or course of events.
Authorise: To give official permission for something to happen, or to give someone official permission to do something.
BJ did not say he hadn’t authorised it, he said he didn’t intervene. Two different things, obviously.
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26-01-2022, 21:43
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Oh, you clever boy. Just one thing:
Intervene: To take part in something so as to prevent or alter a result or course of events.
Authorise: To give official permission for something to happen, or to give someone official permission to do something.
BJ did not say he hadn’t authorised it, he said he didn’t intervene. Two different things, obviously.
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When you have to resort to casuistry, you’re backing the wrong horse - but to be fair, you’re so far up Johnson’s fundament, you can probably see papa smurf’s shoe soles… 
If someone authorises something that’s an intervention - they’re altering a course of events by allowing it to happen; before Johnson’s authoritisation, it wasn’t likely to happen, because pets weren’t a priority.
No. 10 are still denying he did anything…
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...espite-denials
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Yet, despite the fresh disclosures, Downing Street said its position was unchanged. “It remains the case the prime minister did not instruct officials to take any particular course of action,” a spokesperson said.
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26-01-2022, 23:01
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I dont recall anyone feeling robbed when Major took over from Thatcher, or Brown took over from Blair.
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I remember Major saying he thought they'd stretched the elasticity of democracy as far as it would go but that might have been about sleeze rather than him taking over, seems to be a rather toxic cycle of abuse this party rides with. It's irrelevant anyway as smugg is saying it's because the role is more presidential now than prime ministerial
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27-01-2022, 00:26
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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When you have to resort to casuistry, you’re backing the wrong horse - but to be fair, you’re so far up Johnson’s fundament, you can probably see papa smurf’s shoe soles…
If someone authorises something that’s an intervention - they’re altering a course of events by allowing it to happen; before Johnson’s authoritisation, it wasn’t likely to happen, because pets weren’t a priority.
No. 10 are still denying he did anything…
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...espite-denials |
You cease to be pedantic over use of words when it doesn’t suit you, Hugh.
Words have meanings, and if BJ says he didn’t intervene, most people know that this means he didn’t step in to bring it about. All he did was sign the proposal off - a proposal put to him to agree.
You don’t want to admit that of course, because like some others on here your judgement is clouded by your obsessional desperation to have BJ taken out.
My position? Just wait for the report and the police investigation. Hardly a revolutionary concept.
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27-01-2022, 00:50
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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You cease to be pedantic over use of words when it doesn’t suit you, Hugh.
Words have meanings, and if BJ says he didn’t intervene, most people know that this means he didn’t step in to bring it about. All he did was sign the proposal off - a proposal put to him to agree.
You don’t want to admit that of course, because like some others on here your judgement is clouded by your obsessional desperation to have BJ taken out.
My position? Just wait for the report and the police investigation. Hardly a revolutionary concept.
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You hold multiple and contradictory positions on this.
Position No. 1
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Position No. 2
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
My position? Just wait for the report and the police investigation. Hardly a revolutionary concept.
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27-01-2022, 01:46
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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You cease to be pedantic over use of words when it doesn’t suit you, Hugh.
Words have meanings, and if BJ says he didn’t intervene, most people know that this means he didn’t step in to bring it about. All he did was sign the proposal off - a proposal put to him to agree.
You don’t want to admit that of course, because like some others on here your judgement is clouded by your obsessional desperation to have BJ taken out.
My position? Just wait for the report and the police investigation. Hardly a revolutionary concept.
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And if he hadn’t signed off the proposal?
He could have disagreed…
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