Britain outside the EU

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Much as it pains me to come to Hugh's defence, and equally so to cut across you, Hugh didn't get near implying you are a Nazi. That was an inference that you (wrongly) made. Nazi is very strong and needs to be explicit to stick.

but the extreme right where he put me is exactly where the neo Nazis sit. So if he was not calling me a Nazi he put me as bad as them and that is why I take offence

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

blar blar blar. I call you out a liar. You know exactly what putting me the furthest right means and no BS after changes that

No it doesn't, no more than making out someone far (looney) left makes them a communist

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

No it doesn't, no more than making out someone far (looney) left makes you a communist

did I say far? I said looney left if I was called looney right thats fine but putting me on the extreme is not OK, OK?


Whatever anyway

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

but the extreme right where he put me is exactly where the neo Nazis sit. So if he was not calling me a Nazi he put me as bad as them and that is why I take offence

Maybe think of it this way, not all people who hold far right political views are Nazi's However, all Nazi's hold far right political views.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Maybe think of it this way, not all people who hold far right political views are Nazi's However, all Nazi's hold far right political views.

Yeah OK. Maybe I was a little sensitive but it is not the first time Hugh has insulted me so maybe I just got salty cuz I feel like he singles me out for his BS

How would he pretentiously put it ? ad hominem as what he said had nothing to do with the thread and just directed at me only (just like all my replies to his comment)

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Yeah OK. Maybe I was a little sensitive but it is not the first time Hugh has insulted me so maybe I just got salty cuz I feel like he singles me out for his BS

How would he pretentiously put it ? ad hominem as what he said had nothing to do with the thread and just directed at me only

aah don't worry about it. Sometimes I think I've been insulted on here, given a few put downs, made to look a right plonker even.

Think of this place as extended family . . we all fall out with each other . . just ride it until someone else is in the frame

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Carth

aah don't worry about it. Sometimes I think I've been insulted on here, given a few put downs, made to look a right plonker even.

Think of this place as extended family . . we all fall out with each other . . just ride it until someone else is in the frame

I just do not think someone who should be setting an example as a member of the team should be posting stuff like that. Not a good friendly example to set at all

Anyway, back to the topic…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-macron-letter

France has so far been unwilling to consider joint patrols, citing issues of sovereignty. French officials have asked how, if the situation were reversed, Britain might feel about having French soldiers patrolling its coastline.

The underlying objection to this approach is that France does not believe that multiplying the number of officers patrolling the coast is a solution. Paris argues it currently has more than 600 police officers and gendarmes on the Channel beat, with patrols out 24 hours a day, increasingly at night, stopping 65% of crossings.

When migrants and traffickers can hide among the dunes along more than 40 miles of coastline, emerge after a patrol has passed, and get a boat in the water in 10 minutes, officials who have worked in the area for years say it would need a police officer every 100 yards to stop them all.

Instead, France has proposed setting up joint processing centres on French soil, where applications for asylum in Britain could be examined by British immigration officers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793

The UK receives less than half of the asylum applications which France gets.

Most refugees stop in the country bordering their own: there are about 3,700,000 displaced Syrian people in Turkey. The UK has taken in less than 1% of that number through resettlement or asylum from Syria since 2014.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

No, that it pained you to defend Hugh

Although he can defend himself, when someone is wrongly accused of calling someone else a "Nazi" I feel very strongly about it. Just doing the decent thing, Squire.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Instead, France has proposed setting up joint processing centres on French soil, where applications for asylum in Britain could be examined by British immigration officers.

This is interesting. Let's see what the funding model is for this is With the initial application lead times, they may decide to stay in France after all.

What I don't understand is if they don't want the migrants to travel through Europe so they can attempt cross the Channel, why can't asylum requests be submitted via the UK embassies & consulates nearer the origin countries and so devolve the loading to a number of nearer countries.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

but the extreme right where he put me is exactly where the neo Nazis sit. So if he was not calling me a Nazi he put me as bad as them and that is why I take offence

Hugh merely said (and you quoted it too):

People in the "centre" of political views tend not to say things like that…

In no way did Hugh place you in the "extreme right". How you got to that is a mystery.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I just do not think someone who should be setting an example as a member of the team should be posting stuff like that. Not a good friendly example to set at all

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hugh merely said (and you quoted it too):



In no way did Hugh place you in the "extreme right". How you got to that is a mystery.

FFS put a different record on.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hugh merely said (and you quoted it too):



In no way did Hugh place you in the "extreme right". How you got to that is a mystery.

wrong post mate. He said I was the right hinge on the Overton Window. Do not get further right than that

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

wrong post mate. He said I was the right hinge on the Overton Window. Do not get further right than that

I think you're misunderstanding the Overton Window, if that's any reassurance.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you're misunderstanding the Overton Window, if that's any reassurance.

As you seem to understand, the Overton Window doesn’t have a ”Right" or a "Left’"…

(the OP was just a play on words… )