Rising cost of living

Sephiroth · 14-10-2021, 21:52

Taking energy costs as the example, you couldn't make it up.

Paywall link and selected quote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-energy-bills/

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Mild winter ‘could protect households from soaring energy bills’

Kwasi Kwarteng shares internal long-term forecasts, which show wet and warner spells expected, with energy companies

The Weather Forecast can't even tell you if it's raining now.

This ridiculous minister is pinning his hopes on the weather forecast! Jeez.

Btw: what's this "internal long-term forecast"? Something we plebs don't see?

1andrew1 · 14-10-2021, 22:05

For individuals, higher energy prices will directly impact when the energy cap increases and people's fixed tariffs end. So for most people, I think they won't be so impacted until April 2022 directly.

However, they will be directly impacted by costs resulting from supply-side disruption such as this: Price of chicken set to rise, UK's largest supplier warns

Sephiroth · 14-10-2021, 22:25

Andrew, you’re absolutely right.

But you chose to avoid confirming my view of Kwasi’s pronouncement!

1andrew1 · 14-10-2021, 22:44

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Andrew, you’re absolutely right.

But you chose to avoid confirming my view of Kwasi’s pronouncement!

I assume everyone agrees with your comments on his pronouncement so didn't want to credit his nonsense by considering it worthy of debate!

**Hugh** · 14-10-2021, 22:55

Non-paywall link.

https://timesnewsnetwork.com/news/wo...-energy-storm/

Quote:

Kwarteng, whose portfolio includes energy, shared a briefing which said that “for the late winter period from January to February 2022, the most likely scenario is for an unsettled period of wet, windy and mild spells”.

The Met Office’s published longer-range forecast — used for contingency planning — only covers the next three months. It says that this period is “significantly more likely than normal to be mild”, although cold spells were possible, especially during November and December.

Jaymoss · 14-10-2021, 23:19

It is always those with the least who suffer the most when things like this happen

Sephiroth · 14-10-2021, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Non-paywall link.

https://timesnewsnetwork.com/news/wo...-energy-storm/

Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

TheDaddy · 14-10-2021, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Krazy Kwarteng is used to being ridiculed, he's a deeply unpleasant person who called the British workforce lazy in that crappy book so as far as I'm concerned he and his opinions are worthless, even the ones that make him look ridiculous

1andrew1 · 15-10-2021, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

The Br'Express is reporting predictions of snow in parts of the country soon
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weath...d-October-2021

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Yes, but Johnson won't let them near Kwasi as he's doing a really good job at taking the heat off Johnson.

**Hugh** · 15-10-2021, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Loath as I am to defend him, I think he’s talking about medium to long term patterns of weather, rather than daily forecasts.

(Excuse me, but I’m off to scrub myself with disinfectant and a scouring pad so I can feel a semblance of "clean" again).

Carth · 15-10-2021, 00:55

Chicken shortage?

As mentioned by the boss of a company that has made £millions, it not £billions, from employing foreign workers on low wages, has been at the center of at least two cases of quality control and working practices, and had more than one occasion where Covid ran riot.

There seems to be an underlying theme with these big companies that are now struggling . . .

*can you tell what it is yet?*

**Hugh** · 15-10-2021, 01:24

You some sort of Commie?

Carth · 15-10-2021, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh

You some sort of Commie?

Damn . . busted*

*no pun intended Mr RAF chappy

**Paul** · 15-10-2021, 06:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

For individuals, higher energy prices will directly impact when the energy cap increases and people's fixed tariffs end. So for most people, I think they won't be so impacted until April 2022 directly.

You must be joking.
The price cap just went up, and a lot of fixed tariffs will end long before April 2022. I would think most people pay monthly, and those monthly payments are going to go up long before April 2022 as well. Only a small minority will not be impacted until that far away.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

However, they will be directly impacted by costs resulting from supply-side disruption such as this: Price of chicken set to rise, UK's largest supplier warns

Priceless quote

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Ronald Kers, said that "in reality food is too cheap".

What a prick, maybe in his world, but not in mine.

Jaymoss · 15-10-2021, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Paul

You must be joking.
The price cap just went up, and a lot of fixed tariffs will end long before April 2022. I would think most people pay monthly, and those monthly payments are going to go up long before April 2022 as well. Only a small minority will not be impacted until that far away.

Priceless quote

What a prick, maybe in his world, but not in mine.

There is no doubt the energy price rises and if indeed chicken and other food prices increase my standard of living will drop a fair bit. That little bit of spare in my budget each month has dropped considerably. I have already had to change how I shop from weekly to fortnightly and the food I am buying is lower quality than before due to costs now