27-08-2021, 10:39
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Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
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you can't blame Trump, he is not overseeing the withdrawl.
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No, the Taliban are.
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27-08-2021, 12:08
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Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
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No, the Taliban are.
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I didn't realise that the Taliban had taken command of the Whitehouse and of the US forces.
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27-08-2021, 13:40
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Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I didn't realise that the Taliban had taken command of the Whitehouse and of the US forces.
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Nah, the Ruskies still have it 
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27-08-2021, 14:51
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Re: US President Joe Biden
Trump wanted to leave earlier and was the one who signed this 'deal' with the Taliban.
But the Talian broke the deal anyway so there was nothing stopping Biden from overturning it and there was nothing stopping Biden from ignoring Trump's deadline (he did push it back after all). There have been plenty of things he has already ignored.
Biden ultimately took the decisions that have led to this disaster. Biden wanted to leave as well.
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27-08-2021, 14:57
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Re: US President Joe Biden
Indeed.
Trump's grandstanding in Doha was bordering on the megalomania. He is guilty of plenty and he is certainly guilty of inciting the Taliban by giving them legitimacy and political cover for what they have done over the past couple of weeks.
But none of it would have happened had Joe Biden accepted that now was not a good time to withdraw American forces from Afghanistan. He and he alone is responsible for dropping millions of Afghans, not to mention international allies who are there in support of America because of America's invocation of Nato treaty article 5, in some very deep smegola indeed.
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27-08-2021, 15:20
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by Chris
Indeed.
Trump's grandstanding in Doha was bordering on the megalomania. He is guilty of plenty and he is certainly guilty of inciting the Taliban by giving them legitimacy and political cover for what they have done over the past couple of weeks.
But none of it would have happened had Joe Biden accepted that now was not a good time to withdraw American forces from Afghanistan. He and he alone is responsible for dropping millions of Afghans, not to mention international allies who are there in support of America because of America's invocation of Nato treaty article 5, in some very deep smegola indeed.
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Biden was obsessed by quitting by 11th September - 9/11 - according to several commentators.
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27-08-2021, 15:27
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Re: US President Joe Biden
I'd heard that too. However this was reckless even for a country whose politics is driven by PR.
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27-08-2021, 15:36
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Re: US President Joe Biden
What better way to commemorate 9/11 than having the Taliban reinstalled in Afghanistan eh? Almost has a nice symmetry to it.
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27-08-2021, 16:13
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Re: US President Joe Biden
It is worth pointing out that this mess doesn't indicate the past few months have been botched but rather the whole 20 years of nation building in Afghanistan was botched. Since there isn't in fact a nation that can survive a week without an occupying military.
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Last edited by downquark1; 27-08-2021 at 16:18.
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27-08-2021, 16:28
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by downquark1
It is worth pointing out that this mess doesn't indicate the past few months have been botched but rather the whole 20 years of nation building in Afghanistan was botched. Since there isn't in fact a nation that can survive a week without an occupying military.
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27-08-2021, 17:21
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by Damien
What better way to commemorate 9/11 than having the Taliban reinstalled in Afghanistan eh? Almost has a nice symmetry to it.
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America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.
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27-08-2021, 17:48
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.
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Don't hold your breath, they are just empty words.
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27-08-2021, 17:49
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.
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Only if they can spot and engage them from a high-altitude drone without any significant intelligence from ground operations. They really have reduced their ability to operate in Afghanistan pretty much to zero.
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27-08-2021, 18:06
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Don't hold your breath, they are just empty words.
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I was being sarcastic.
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27-08-2021, 18:07
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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I was being sarcastic. |
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