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				Makes vaccine passports useless then. 
			
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 One key objective of vaccine passports is to encourage vaccinations, ie rewarding good behaviour. Ironically, this information does not change that objective as vaccination is still a good thing. But covid passports and mask-wearing need not be mutualy exclusive.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			^^^^ 
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Vaxs reduce the chance of one being seriously ill/hospitalised, masks reduce the chance of spreading viral load to others. 
 
They are complementary, not exclusive.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			30-07-2021, 22:42
			
			
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				^^^^ 
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Vaxs reduce the chance of one being seriously ill/hospitalised, masks reduce the chance of spreading viral load to others. 
 
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 Encourage or coerce?
 
There is a very big difference, especially if state driven.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I see the big push now is for pregnant women to get vaccinated, I can see that causing a few upsets.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I see the big push now is for pregnant women to get vaccinated, I can see that causing a few upsets. 
			
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 No one should be forced to do anything. It's on their own conciense if their lack of action causes harm to themselves, their kids or anyone else. Personal responsibility, I believe it used to be called.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I see the big push now is for pregnant women to get vaccinated, I can see that causing a few upsets. 
			
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 From what I’ve seen the issue is the phrase “pregnant people”  instead of pregnant woman”. And that’s a whole other rabbit hole.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				From what I’ve seen the issue is the phrase “pregnant people”  instead of pregnant woman”. And that’s a whole other rabbit hole. 
			
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 Strange, that.
 
I googled "covid vaccine pregnant", "covid vaccine pregnancy", & "covid vaccine pregnant person". and everything that came up on the first two pages of the search results used the phrase "pregnant" or "pregnant women" - not one mention of "pregnant person"…   
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				Strange, that. 
I googled "covid vaccine pregnant", "covid vaccine pregnancy", & "covid vaccine pregnant person". and everything that came up on the first two pages of the search results used the phrase "pregnant" or "pregnant women" - not one mention of "pregnant person"…   
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 The Twitter verse , where else?
 
There’s loads of posts of the media and some nhs , Scotland especially, using the term
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			https://www.theguardian.com/business...customers-away
Oh dear oh dear. 
 
Turns out personal responsibility means staying home and people keeping their money in their pocket. Oh well they did ask to reopen. 
 
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			They dont seem able to make their own minds up either ; 
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			Good to see YouTube clamping down on Covid misinformation 
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A YouTube statement said it had "clear and established Covid-19 medical misinformation policies based on local and global health authority guidance". 
 
A spokesperson told the Guardian it "did not allow content that denies the existence of Covid-19" or which encouraged people "to use hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin to treat or prevent the virus". Neither has been proven to be effective against Covid. 
 
The videos in question "did not provide sufficient countervailing context", the spokesperson said.
			
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			Coronavirus evening update, BBC news   02/08/2021 
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2. PM wants 'balanced' approach to travel 
3. China's Delta outbreak spreads 
4. NI vaccine certificate app 'running well'
 5. I'm a Celebrity... returns to Wales
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				Coronavirus evening update, BBC news   02/08/2021 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58057037
1. NHS Covid app to be modified 
2. PM wants 'balanced' approach to travel
 3. China's Delta outbreak spreads
4. NI vaccine certificate app 'running well'
 5. I'm a Celebrity... returns to Wales
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