Coronavirus - Page 346

papa smurf · 19-05-2021, 10:57

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Originally Posted by jfman

Hopefully. We should get some good data on efficacy vs variants (plus preventing hospitalisation and deaths) in the next few weeks.

You know, the type that doesn't require qualification on the Sunday mornings.

Words to look out for: think, expect, should, may. Also watch for people talking about their own confidence (personal opinion); against Covid (not variant specific) and vaccines in general (including the higher performing mRNA vaccines in their opinion).

And anything you post

About the virus.

jfman · 19-05-2021, 11:05

I'm not a paid expert/apparatus of the British state

1andrew1 · 19-05-2021, 12:13

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You do know that we are continuing to let people in from that country don't you, there has been 110 direct flights from India during the last three weeks alone

You'd almost think we were desperate for a deal. But they do have to isolate at a hotel and not at home where they previously mixed with their own. household

jfman · 19-05-2021, 12:15

Professor Pantsdown sees a "glimmer of hope" in the data.

Doesn't sound very scientific.

papa smurf · 19-05-2021, 12:16

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You'd almost think we were desperate for a deal. But they do have to isolate at a hotel and not at home where they previously mixed with their own. household

But they are mixing at the airports before going into quarantine

https://inews.co.uk/news/green-red-l...-rules-1006937

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...list-countries

tweetiepooh · 19-05-2021, 15:20

The people I'd like to see dealt with are those finding ways to return from "red list" counties and avoid restrictions in place. But that just illustrates a big problem our government has in that people try to work around guidelines thus needing longer and more strict rules.

jonbxx · 19-05-2021, 16:05

Found a big QR code for my vaccine status on the NHS App yesterday. There seems to be a travel section now. It's always had my vaccination status under my health record but this seems new (or I haven't spotted it before)

Definitely not a vaccine passport, no sir.

* disclaimer, very much in favour of having certified vaccine status so this is actually great

Sephiroth · 19-05-2021, 16:18

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

The people I'd like to see dealt with are those finding ways to return from "red list" counties and avoid restrictions in place. But that just illustrates a big problem our government has in that people try to work around guidelines thus needing longer and more strict rules.

Very much to the point. Self-isolation is not everyone's strong suit.

jfman · 19-05-2021, 16:24

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Found a big QR code for my vaccine status on the NHS App yesterday. There seems to be a travel section now. It's always had my vaccination status under my health record but this seems new (or I haven't spotted it before)

Definitely not a vaccine passport, no sir.

* disclaimer, very much in favour of having certified vaccine status so this is actually great

It's inevitable to reopen the economy fully. Otherwise we remain in phased restrictions for longer.

**Chris** · 19-05-2021, 16:33

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Originally Posted by jfman

It's inevitable to reopen the economy fully. Otherwise we remain in phased restrictions for longer.

It will be interesting to see how Nippy decides to spin it in Scotland, and how it is eventually implemented, seeing as we don't have the same sort of NHS app here as down south.

Carth · 19-05-2021, 16:37

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Originally Posted by jfman

It's inevitable to reopen the economy fully. Otherwise we remain in phased restrictions for longer.

You mean . . no vaccine passport = no work?

Best of luck managing the legislation that prevents anyone without a 'vaccine passport' from attending a work place they're contracted to.

**Chris** · 19-05-2021, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Carth

You mean . . no vaccine passport = no work?

Best of luck managing the legislation that prevents anyone without a 'vaccine passport' from attending a work place they're contracted to.

El gov wouldn't have to interfere in workplaces. Controlling access to public services like transport and consumer access to non-essential hospitality and leisure would cause enough inconvenience to make most people reassess their principles with regards to vaccine refusal.

OLD BOY · 19-05-2021, 16:47

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Originally Posted by jfman

Professor Pantsdown sees a "glimmer of hope" in the data.

Doesn't sound very scientific.

He’s not a scientist.

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Originally Posted by jfman

It's inevitable to reopen the economy fully. Otherwise we remain in phased restrictions for longer.

Even with hospital admissions remaining flat?

pip08456 · 19-05-2021, 16:52

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Even with hospital admissions remaining flat?

jfman is the voice of doom.

Carth · 19-05-2021, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Chris

El gov wouldn't have to interfere in workplaces. Controlling access to public services like transport and consumer access to non-essential hospitality and leisure would cause enough inconvenience to make most people reassess their principles with regards to vaccine refusal.

What about traveling to work using said services? Would this prevent me from attending work until I got a vaccine passport?

And what then would my employment status be? Sick, Furloughed?, Sacked?

Is there a case for discrimination? (over to you Richard lol) or similar claim where my 'right to work' is compromised?