Coronavirus

That's a good move by Valneva, because the rules of the common procurement scheme allow individual member states to deal directly with a supplier if that supplier isn't in active negotiations with the EU itself. They can probably supply as much vaccine within the EU by dealing directly than they would have by dealing with the EU.

[Taf]

Coronavirus vaccine boxes must be defaced with permanent marker and destroyed before they are thrown away, official guidance warns.

NHS England instructions say this is to stop thieves using the cartons to sell fake jabs on doorsteps and the dark web.

They add that vials, which contain doses before they are put into syringes, can only be binned with used needles in yellow clinical waste bags.

While there have been no reports of jab packaging being stolen, the NHS claims this remains a 'significant risk'.

It comes after Pfizer revealed yesterday that it had discovered fake versions of its jab being sold in Mexico and Poland at £700 ($1,000) each.

A fraudster was caught in January giving out a fake vaccine in Britain for £160, and one vial was swiped from an inoculation centre in March.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nce-warns.html

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

I looked at the interactive map for our area today, first time Ive done so for a while, it was almost completely white, meaning little to no cases at all.

You may think that, but COVID is waiting behind a tree at the end of your road, and as soon as you go out it will jump on you giver a good kicking. So for your protection the the government will keep all the legislation in place that is passed without scrutiny or a vote, you know, in case it needs it, for your safety............

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You may think that, but COVID is waiting behind a tree at the end of your road, and as soon as you go out it will jump on you giver a good kicking. So for your protection the the government will keep all the legislation in place that is passed without scrutiny or a vote, you know, in case it needs it, for your safety............

Very good Similar to wee nippy in Scotland, treating the population like school kids, hardly any cases of covid, the majority of people in the vulnerable and over 50s vaccinated, and yet here we are, still under stupid bloody restrictions, like allowing pubs to open indoors till 8pm, but you're not allowed to have an alcoholic drink! She obviously doesn't trust her own people, hopefully it shows in the May elections and the shower of shit called the SNP get punted.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You may think that, but COVID is waiting behind a tree at the end of your road, and as soon as you go out it will jump on you giver a good kicking. So for your protection the the government will keep all the legislation in place that is passed without scrutiny or a vote, you know, in case it needs it, for your safety............

Looks like you’ve finally clicked on the danger of new variants.

[Carth]

heck I need more drink, my imagination is running riot:
Scenario:-

Covid in uniform jumps from behind a tree, clip board at the ready

*excuse me Sir, can I see your Covid vaccination record please?

Paul hands over documents.

Covid in uniform checks off details against his clip board list.

Covid in uniform looks up, grins in a nasty way.

I see you're missing Appalachian variant B26ZX08 . . and pounces

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Looks like you’ve finally clicked on the danger of new variants.

Oh yes, especially the new « double mutant « Indian one.

Yes, and if that’s not enough we’ll introduce the « double secret mutant » variant. That’ll sort it.

https://youtu.be/1tfK_3XK4CI

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by jfman

Looks like you’ve finally clicked on the danger of new variants.

I heard an egghead say the other day that providing it's still covid 19 the vaccine should still offer a good level of protection against any variant, the problem is if it becomes something entirely new like covid 21 but he was also optimistic about that to saying it'd be much easier to control and deal with now we don't have a pandemic running wild.

Tremendous results from the vaccine, the same egghead said out of 34 million vaccinated only 35 have been hospitalised after catching covid

I had my first dose on Wednesday, felt awful yesterday but it's passed now

Terrible stories from India, makes me think there must be something we can do to help them

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You may think that, but COVID is waiting behind a tree at the end of your road...

Or you may think that covid is 'just flu'.

Let's stop with the point scoring and actually debate the issues.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Or you may think that covid is 'just flu'.

Your rich history of pointless posts continues.

That's enough of the point scoring.Debate the subject.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Telegraph:

Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90 per cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

Good news, sooner we're out of lockdown the better.

Full article on link, no paywall.

[pip08456]

Interesting new vaccine enters phase 3 trials in UK. A vaccine derived from plants.

I wonder what Jonbxx thinks.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Interesting new vaccine enters phase 3 trials in UK. A vaccine derived from plants.

I wonder what Jonbxx thinks.

Yeah, it's an interesting technology, getting plants like tobacco and their close relatives to make drugs. The tech has a fun name 'pharming' Pharming has also been used to make drugs in milk from sheep and cows.

The huge advantage of using plants to make vaccine is the ease of handling. Vaccines are often made using cell culture which is pretty tough and time consuming whereas plant technologies need the skills of your regular gardener once you have the DNA in there.

The downsides are getting the drug out afterwards and scaling up. Plant cells are pretty tough to break down while keeping the virus like particle intact unlike animal or insect cells which just need mild detergents. With scaling, you would think just sow fields of the plants but there are issues with genetically modified crops out there in the wild.

It looks like Medicago have got it working well however and GSKs experience with adjuvants to boost the immune system looks good.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Good news, sooner we're out of lockdown the better.

Full article on link, no paywall.

The mentality of 'sooner we're out of lockdown' contributed towards the significant second wave.

The current mentality using the science (to a degree) release brake, observe, release a bit further etc. is the best possible solution. I mean, it only took the government a year to implement it, despite it being blindingly obvious.... but hey ho

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The mentality of 'sooner we're out of lockdown' contributed towards the significant second wave.

The current mentality using the science (to a degree) release brake, observe, release a bit further etc. is the best possible solution. I mean, it only took the government a year to implement it, despite it being blindingly obvious.... but hey ho

Israel have recorded 0 deaths in a day for the first time in over a year. We are incredibly close to success.

No idea why someone would want to risk another lockdown by not taking baby steps over the course of a couple of months. A couple of months in which second vaccinations get into the over 60s and first vaccines to almost everyone.