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		|  18-02-2021, 11:03 | #3766 |  
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Well the problem isn't really the campaign it's giving people a choice for free.
 If you gave me the choice I'd do exactly the same thing. You can't blame Germans for being stereotypically rational.
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:18 | #3767 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Which one would you choose? |  The Pfizer one. All the scientific data to date makes it the rational choice for an individual all things being equal.
 
An AZ one now versus a Pfizer one in three, six, nine months is a different question. But that's not how it's presented to individuals in Germany.
 
They should stop offering a choice as the collective benefit of the AZ one being out there in low risk age groups is better than none being out there.
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:26 | #3768 |  
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					Originally Posted by jfman  The Pfizer one. All the scientific data to date makes it the rational choice for an individual all things being equal.
 An AZ one now versus a Pfizer one in three, six, nine months is a different question. But that's not how it's presented to individuals in Germany.
 
 They should stop offering a choice as the collective benefit of the AZ one being out there in low risk age groups is better than none being out there.
 |  would you have the other jab if was called the Glasgow......   jab and not the oxford....jab?
		 
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:27 | #3769 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  would you have the other jab if was called the Glasgow......   jab and not the oxford....jab? |  I've had a few jabs in Glasgow in my time it's not a pleasant experience
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:30 | #3770 |  
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			Just received a email letter from the NHS telling me to shield as they have just classed me as clinically extremely vulnerable.
		 
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:32 | #3771 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Just received a email letter from the NHS telling me to shield as they have just classed me as clinically extremely vulnerable. |  So what will you do differently to what you have done for the past year?
		 
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		|  18-02-2021, 11:42 | #3772 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  So what will you do differently to what you have done for the past year? |  Apart from 2 and a bit months  last  summer stay at home.
		 
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		|  18-02-2021, 12:32 | #3773 |  
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		| This some are saying is broadcasting history. We hope it helps. Commercial TV channels unite to screen Covid vaccine myth-busting video. Tonight at the same time 9.56pm @itv @Channel4
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		|  18-02-2021, 12:52 | #3775 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  This could be interesting. |  Don’t they know nobody watches linear television?    
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		|  18-02-2021, 18:19 | #3776 |  
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Don’t they know nobody watches linear television?   |  Actually, I dont, all Ive watched in the last year is a couple of covid announcements by Boris.
 
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		|  18-02-2021, 19:17 | #3777 |  
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					Originally Posted by Paul  Actually, I dont, all Ive watched in the last year is a couple of covid announcements by Boris.
 Its possible the people they are aiming for dont either.
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		|  18-02-2021, 21:23 | #3778 |  
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		| BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine is less potent against South African variant 
 Covid-19 jab still works but produces only a third of the antibodies it did for original virus, study finds
 
 The BioNTech/Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine appears to be significantly less effective against the virus variant that emerged in South Africa, according to a study published on Wednesday.
 
 The vaccine still works against the strain known as 501Y.V2, but the shot produced only a third of the antibodies that it did for the original virus in a lab study using an engineered virus.
 
 The partners said there was “no clinical evidence” that people vaccinated with their Covid-19 shot lacked protection against the variant. It is hard to draw firm conclusions from lab experiments on how the vaccines will work on the variants in humans.
 
 But they said they were making investments and talking to regulators so they could seek authorisation for an updated vaccine or a booster shot “once a strain that significantly reduces protection from the vaccine is identified”. ...
 
 The paper, published in The New England Journal of Medicine, is based on experiments using the blood of 20 vaccine trial participants. The scientists from Pfizer, BioNTech and the University of Texas Medical Branch tested three different genetically engineered viruses, one with all the mutations of 501Y.V2, and two with subsets of the changes.
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