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			Jesus, only been away a day.  I prescribe tin foil hats for everyone, tout suite
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-12-2020, 22:43
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Pierre
					 
				 
				Jesus, only been away a day.  I prescribe tin foil hats for everyone, tout suite 
			
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 One hopes they're of a better quality than the usual Christmas hats we're 'forced' to wear, they split when I try to get them on  . . .  
 
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			21-12-2020, 22:52
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Paul
					 
				 
				Do they think he goes out and counts them ? 
 
He obviously will rely on information given to him, which presumably was 174 at the time. 
			
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			21-12-2020, 22:54
			
			
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			I am completely confused by the direction this thread is taking. I suspect everyone is punch drunk.  
So now in tier 4 which looks and feels like when we were in lockdown in March.I suspect that everyone is going to be joining us very,very soon.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-12-2020, 23:23
			
			
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				I am completely confused by the direction this thread is taking. I suspect everyone is punch drunk.  
So now in tier 4 which looks and feels like when we were in lockdown in March.I suspect that everyone is going to be joining us very,very soon.  
			
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 I think we will all be moved up on the 30th to tier 4
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-12-2020, 23:46
			
			
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				I think we will all be moved up on the 30th to tier 4 
			
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 They usually give 48 hours' notice. 
 
The next announcement I believe is scheduled for the 30th December itself. 
 
So they could say Tier 4 from midnight on New Year's day if they keep to the 30th as the announcement date. 
 
Or they could make the announcement earlier and close before the 31st to reduce socialising on New Year's Eve.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-12-2020, 00:02
			
			
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				Do they think he goes out and counts them ? 
 
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 I think the journalist is pointing out the discrepancy between BoJo’s statement and reality, rather than stating BoJo is lying.
 
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			22-12-2020, 00:14
			
			
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				I think the journalist is pointing out the discrepancy between BoJo’s statement and reality, rather than stating BoJo is lying. 
 
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  Of course the journalist  investigated possible reasons.  Eg A surge of European drivers trying to get home for Xmas. 
500 is a suspiciously round number. 174 sounds like an actual count.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Of course the journalist  investigated possible reasons.  Eg A surge of European drivers trying to get home for Xmas.  
			
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 I thought their job was to make up stuff, and then call it "News".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			So much for social distancing   
Antarctica news: Covid strikes Antarctica as it spreads to EVERY continent in world
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				 Quote from The Sun: Europe risks another year of lockdowns because of blunders in the EU's vaccine buying scheme. 
 
Britain was slammed earlier this year for refusing to join the EU-wide scheme. 
 
But EU member states are now embroiled in a furious row amid fears it will take months for the vaccine to be rolled out. 
 
And Eurocrats are even said to have turned down 200 million extra batches of the German developed Pfizer jab to avoid slighting the French. 
 
Brussels has been warned it will be left with too few doses while the UK forges ahead with mass immunisation. 
 
More than 500,000 people in Britain have already been given their first round of jabs. 
 
Fury is rising in Berlin with growing calls for Angela Merkel to sideline the EU scheme and start a national buying programme.
			
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			Is there a secondary source for that claim in the Sun? The reference to declined doses in the EU I can find is this: 
https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idCNL8N2IW4G4
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The extra 100 million doses would be supplied at the same price, but with the timetable to be negotiated, EU officials said.
			
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 And that lines up to this report from a month before:
 https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...pfizer-vaccine
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The bloc will pay less than $19.50 per jab, a senior EU official involved in talks with vaccine makers told Reuters, adding that partly reflected the financial support given by the EU and Germany for the drug’s development.
			
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			Too expensive, slighting the French, who cares?  What’s important is that we didn’t listen to the Euro-loons who thought we should be in the EU procurement scheme because, well, it’s the EU so it’s obviously better ... 
 
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