Coronavirus

Originally Posted by downquark1

If they are threatened with world trade collapse or war then yes. However, I do not know this is the case. But to suggest there is no other explanation is a lack of imagination.

An explanation requires a base level of plausibility and treatment of available evidence to be worthy of the name.

Imagination permits speculation, analytical thought sifts and produces plausible explanations. Nothing you have suggested here qualifies.

[mrmistoffelees]

UK's 'supercharged mutation' spotted in the spring, in Brazil.....

source: The Indy. .

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Chris

An explanation requires a base level of plausibility and treatment of available evidence to be worthy of the name.

Imagination permits speculation, analytical thought sifts and produces plausible explanations. Nothing you have suggested here qualifies.

On the contrary is it supposedly on the record that Macron threatened to block shipments unless Borris locked down.

The justification for lockdowns have been shifting widely. Politicians have stated it was impossible to predict the need for a second lockdown when I predicted it in this very thread as it was mainstream scientific opinion.

So we are either in farce or malice. Or farce to hide malice.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by downquark1

On the contrary is it supposedly on the record that Macron threatened to block shipments unless Borris locked down.

Do you have a link for this allegation?

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do you have a link for this allegation?

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-...gent-measures/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-measures.html

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Sorry this one

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...e-borders.html

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by downquark1

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-...gent-measures/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-measures.html

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Sorry this one

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...e-borders.html

Thank you.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by downquark1

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-...gent-measures/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...-measures.html

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Sorry this one

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...e-borders.html

OOh looks like someone could have been kissing the wrong arse

Originally Posted by downquark1

On the contrary is it supposedly on the record that Macron threatened to block shipments unless Borris locked down.

The justification for lockdowns have been shifting widely. Politicians have stated it was impossible to predict the need for a second lockdown when I predicted it in this very thread as it was mainstream scientific opinion.

So we are either in farce or malice. Or farce to hide malice.

Nice attempt to side-step the point but it won’t do.

You weren’t making a point about France restricting travel from the UK, you were indulging in wild speculation about Covid being an international conspiracy and suggesting such an ‘explanation’ ought to be entertained, lest one be found lacking imagination.

I responded that your understanding what constitutes an ‘explanation’ is somewhat lacking in finesse. Anything to add?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by downquark1

If they are threatened with world trade collapse or war then yes. However, I do not know this is the case. But to suggest there is no other explanation is a lack of imagination.

Not all countries are dependent on world trade to the extent they couldn't live without it. Similarly not all countries - especially western democracies - allow for an easy justification for war.

Quite often the answer is the most straightforward one. We are dealing with SARS 2 and making a half arsed attempt at deploying the SARS playbook, limping along until a vaccine rather than locking down to elimination without one.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Chris

Nice attempt to side-step the point but it won’t do.

You weren’t making a point about France restricting travel from the UK, you were indulging in wild speculation about Covid being an international conspiracy and suggesting such an ‘explanation’ ought to be entertained, lest one be found lacking imagination.

I responded that your understanding what constitutes an ‘explanation’ is somewhat lacking in finesse. Anything to add?

I do not know what the answer is. I have various theories in my head and update them as information arrives. I will not outline them here as I am too busy.

I do not belive covid or the vacines are fake or anything like that. Only that we are under a fog of political obfuscation.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by downquark1

I do not know what the answer is. I have various theories in my head and update them as information arrives. I will not outline them here as I am too busy.

I do not belive covid or the vacines are fake or anything like that. Only that we are under a fog of political obfuscation.

Again the answer is the obvious one. Governments (many) trying to hide their own incompetence. We used to call it 'spin' not a New World Order conspiracy theory.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by jfman

Again the answer is the obvious one. Governments (many) trying to hide their own incompetence.

That is one of the theories.

[Hom3r]

Dealing with Covidiots on my towns Facebook page.


They are saying this isn't in law as it is only guidance, and so they are going ahead as planned, even though we are in tier 4

Originally Posted by downquark1

That is one of the theories.

And that is precisely the sort of equivocation that allowed the MMR scare to take root. Failure to evaluate plausibility, or failure to give appropriate weight to a claim which is contested within a relevant peer group, leads to competing ‘theories’ getting equal airtime in popular media and creates the misleading impression that batschitt crazy speculation should be given equal prominence to thoroughly considered hypothesis.

Occam’s razor is a very useful interpretive principle in situations like this. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. A massive, coordinated virus scare designed to reset the world financial system in favour of control by shadowy elites is not simple. It would be terrifyingly difficult to plan, much less pull off. You’re not demonstrating imagination and flexibility of thought by entertaining it alongside good old fashioned government cock up. Quite the opposite.

[jfman]

I want to know in what way the 2018 financial system wasn't already rigged in favour of said 'shadowy global elite'.