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			I don't know why we didn't just cancel Christmas and do what the Sikhs,Hindus,Muslims and other faiths did this year and just fit their particular religious festivals around lockdown.
		 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Are you saying you don't think the vaccine actually works? Its reported success is 52% after dose one and 95% after dose two. |  Short term immunity. Nobody knows how long that immunity lasts yet. And remember this study was during social distancing, mask wearing, limited mixing etc. Once things go back to normal who knows?
 
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		|  18-12-2020, 09:37 | #1653 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  I don't know why we didn't just cancel Christmas and do what the Sikhs,Hindus,Muslims and other faiths did this year and just fit their particular religious festivals around lockdown. |  
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		|  18-12-2020, 09:41 | #1654 |  
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			Cancel Christmas  
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		|  18-12-2020, 09:44 | #1655 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Short term immunity. Nobody knows how long that immunity lasts yet. And remember this study was during social distancing, mask wearing, limited mixing etc. Once things go back to normal who knows?You can always debate it with yourself when you grow an extra head.  |  I rarely disagree with Heero, but that last remark is gratuitous and extreme.
 
 The vaccine is a start and the scientists will be measuring the CV incidence as roll-out progresses.  In turn, that will define the vaccination strategy going forward until CV is eradicated (and perhaps the next one comes along).
 
 Subject to confirmatory outcomes, it looks like vaccine developmental science has taken a leap forward.
 
 On another matter - repaying our CV loans, I wonder whether the Guvmin are ring-fencing the £25 billion or so we no longer send to the EU annually.
 
 
 
 
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		|  18-12-2020, 10:10 | #1656 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  I don't know why we didn't just cancel Christmas and do what the Sikhs,Hindus,Muslims and other faiths did this year and just fit their particular religious festivals around lockdown. |  Because we're not all miserable barstewards.
		 
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Short term immunity. Nobody knows how long that immunity lasts yet. |  That's news to me, I thought the vaccine just made the symptoms less severe if you caught it?
 
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		|  18-12-2020, 11:16 | #1658 |  
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 I rarely disagree with Heero, but that last remark is gratuitous and extreme.
 
 The vaccine is a start and the scientists will be measuring the CV incidence as roll-out progresses.  In turn, that will define the vaccination strategy going forward until CV is eradicated (and perhaps the next one comes along).
 
 Subject to confirmatory outcomes, it looks like vaccine developmental science has taken a leap forward.
 
 On another matter - repaying our CV loans, I wonder whether the Guvmin are ring-fencing the £25 billion or so we no longer send to the EU annually.
 
 
 
 |  I know I’m indulging in the flagellation of an equine corpse, but such egregious fabrications need to be highlighted...
 
The U.K. Government’s own figures 
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		| In 2019 the UK made an estimated gross contribution (after the rebate) of £14.4 billion. The UK received £5.0 billion of public sector receipts from the EU, so the UK’s net public sector contribution to the EU was an estimated £9.4 billion. |  
There’s £25 billion outstanding to be paid by 2057, but that’s not annually..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/51110096 
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		|  18-12-2020, 12:20 | #1659 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  I don't know why we didn't just cancel Christmas and do what the Sikhs, Hindus, Muslims and other faiths did this year and just fit their particular religious festivals around lockdown. |  
My Christmas was cancelled this year on 30th of September at 3:14am when my mother died.
 
Just my dad and I this year, and I've never cooked a Turkey on my own.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  ..but that last remark is gratuitous and extreme.
 
 
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		|  18-12-2020, 13:21 | #1661 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Because we're not all miserable barstewards. |  Neither were those groups BUT they went with the lockdown rules..Seems in an era of diversity we could have done the same.
		 
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		|  18-12-2020, 13:41 | #1662 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  Neither were those groups BUT they went with the lockdown rules..Seems in an era of diversity we could have done the same. |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Why?  Is every vestige of long standing British custom & culture to be sacrificed to the woke agenda? |  Diversity to me is not woke it's capitalism. It's people's different perspectives gleaned from different experiences all competing to provide the best solutions. As oppose to the more top-down Communistic one-size-fits-all mantra.
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		|  18-12-2020, 14:30 | #1664 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Diversity to me is not woke it's capitalism. It's people's different perspectives gleaned from different experiences all competing to provide the best solutions. As oppose to the more top-down Communistic one-size-fits-all mantra. |  
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