Labour was responsible for anti-Semitic discrimination

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Jeremy Clarkson blasts Keir Starmer after Jeremy Corbyn suspension ‘Part of the problem’

Speaking in his column for The Sun, the TV star pointed out that the new leader was also part of the party during the period which was investigated.

He wrote: “Jeremy Corbyn has been suspended from the Labour Party for refusing to acknowledge that he’s a disgusting anti-Semite.

“And now his hideous friends like Diane Abbott are lining up to defend him.”

Turning his attention to the new Labour leader, he went on to suggest Keir was also “part of the problem”.

The Grand Tour host continued: “Naturally, Sir Keir Starmer is acting tough by mowing down cyclists and putting even more gel on his Lego hair, but the fact is that he was part of the party when it was acting like the Nazis.

“Which means he was part of the problem as well.”

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-...sm-latest-news

[jfman]

Jeremy Corbyn condemns all racism yet is a "disgusting anti-Semite".

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

Jeremy Corbyn condemns all racism yet is a "disgusting anti-Semite".

Looks like you've found him out

Originally Posted by jfman

Jeremy Corbyn condemns all racism yet is a "disgusting anti-Semite".

tbf, there’s a few who say "all lives matter" but are disgusting racists...

Originally Posted by jfman

Jeremy Corbyn condemns all racism yet is a "disgusting anti-Semite".

Generalisation is a time-honoured means of avoiding an issue. Corbyn is particularly famous for body-swerving requests for him to engage in specifics by condemning 'all forms of' something. As Hugh has pointed out ... what's your first instinct, when you ask someone if they agree that 'black lives matter', and they respond 'all lives matter'? Do you tend to think them more likely, or less likely, to be racist - or, at the very least, to have completely failed to understand the problem?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

Generalisation is a time-honoured means of avoiding an issue. Corbyn is particularly famous for body-swerving requests for him to engage in specifics by condemning 'all forms of' something. As Hugh has pointed out ... what's your first instinct, when you ask someone if they agree that 'black lives matter', and they respond 'all lives matter'? Do you tend to think them more likely, or less likely, to be racist - or, at the very least, to have completely failed to understand the problem?

What if someone asks do all lives matter,is the correct reply no only the black ones matter?

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What if someone asks do all lives matter,is the correct reply no only the black ones matter?

Someone who replied that way would have thoroughly misunderstood what “Black Lives Matter” is supposed to mean.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What if someone asks do all lives matter, is the correct reply no only the black ones matter?

The woke might well say "Yes".

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by noel43

Isreal isn't as innocent as people like to think. They are doing in Palestine what the Germans did in Poland. Taking occupied land and building villages. This is against international law, yet everybody see.s happy with that.

So because the Israeli government does something you don’t like, you condemn all Jews?

If the British government does something that people in other parts of the world condemn, would that be the fault of the whole British population? Should we all be condemned?

It’s a very silly and childish way of looking at the world.

Originally Posted by noel43

Isreal isn't as innocent as people like to think. They are doing in Palestine what the Germans did in Poland. Taking occupied land and building villages. This is against international law, yet everybody see.s happy with that.

You very effectively demonstrate the problem Labour has been left with by Jeremy Corbyn and the racist anti-Semites whose behaviour he has enabled.

The actions of Israel in the Palestinian Territories are a specific political problem and, as far as the U.K’s posture is concerned, a matter of foreign policy. Yet when you invoke events in those territories to justify discrimination against, or discriminatory speech against, people of the Jewish faith, then you are at worst an anti-Semitic racist, or at least enabling of those who are. This is what Jeremy Corbyn and his allies have continually failed to acknowledge or accept, and Corbyn’s continuing denial of this is what got him suspended from the party last week.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Hugh

tbf, there’s a few who say "all lives matter" but are disgusting racists...

I agree, but they almost never say “black lives matter”.

Originally Posted by Corbyn statement

My statement following the publication of the EHRC report:

“Antisemitism is absolutely abhorrent, wrong and responsible for some of humanity’s greatest crimes. As Leader of the Labour Party I was always determined to eliminate all forms of racism and root out the cancer of antisemitism. I have campaigned in support of Jewish people and communities my entire life and I will continue to do so.

“The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process.

“Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left.

“Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should.

“One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated.

“My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”

I couldn’t imagine the “all lives matter” crew saying the bits in bold as they deny police brutality towards African Americans.

He may well be hopeless but a “disgusting anti-Semite” would, for me at least, be dramatically overstated for political reasons by his opponents.

[Mad Max]

This is interesting.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

This is interesting.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

What story do you think it tells in particular?

[Sephiroth]

Obviously that Labour was responsible for anti-Semitic discrimination.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Obviously that Labour was responsible for anti-Semitic discrimination.

That's not in the link I'm seeing which is about the US.