UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Interesting comment piece in the Torygraph today. The paper is going cool on Brexit. Reality strikes. (Why can i still read it all for free ? Very entertaining mind ... )
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...itains-future/

It’s an opinion piece written by Jeremy Warner, who is not a great supporter of Brexit or, in fact, the current Administration!

[1andrew1]

Farewell Project Fear, Hello Project Near

The average weekly shop will become "much more expensive" as import costs for everyday items rise by as much as a third in the event of a no-deal Brexit, a major business group has warned.
Households will be particularly hard hit at the start of next year and into the spring.
The UK will be left without a future trade deal with the EU at the end of December, unless one can be struck in the next few weeks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1286830.html

[1andrew1]

More evidence that The Telegraph has woken up to the follies of Brexit.

UK-US trade deal cannot happen if Brexit talks fail, ex-official says
A prized tie-up between London and Washington will be off the table if talks with Brussels break down, according to former assistant US trade representative Barbara Weisel.
She added that any agreement is also likely to be delayed if the Democrats win the White House next month, in a major blow to Boris Johnson’s Government.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...-feeds#image=1

[OLD BOY]

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To quote a previous poster

It’s an opinion piece

From three and a half years ago...

(by that totally impartial observer, Dan Hannan, ex-Director of the ERG, one of the founders of the Vote Leave Campaign...).

It’s not really the viewpoint of the NY Times, is it?

[OLD BOY]

Accidentally, I posted an old item striking a more positive tone about Brexit, which is why I deleted it as soon as I noticed it. My apologies.

But I do think that all the negative gripes on here need to be balanced. It’s coming primarily from remainers, who have really taken the result of the referendum badly and find it difficult to admit that this was the will of the British electorate and we now need to make it work.

Here is an alternative view to balance the argument a little bit.

https://moneyweek.com/economy/uk-eco...and-the-eu-too

https://www.cer.eu/insights/five-rea...better-nothing

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...l-commonwealth

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

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To quote a previous poster


From three and a half years ago...

(by that totally impartial observer, Dan Hannan, ex-Director of the ERG, one of the founders of the Vote Leave Campaign...).

It’s not really the viewpoint of the NY Times, is it?

Comedy gold. To have to go back over three years to find a good news opinion piece about Brexit and one written by a Vote Leave founder says it all.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Accidentally, I posted an old item striking a more positive tone about Brexit, which is why I deleted it as soon as I noticed it. My apologies.

But I do think that all the negative gripes on here need to be balanced. It’s coming primarily from remainers, who have really taken the result of the referendum badly and find it difficult to admit that this was the will of the British electorate and we now need to make it work.

Here is an alternative view to balance the argument a little bit.

https://moneyweek.com/economy/uk-eco...and-the-eu-too

https://www.cer.eu/insights/five-rea...better-nothing

Do they? Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself.

If you’ve got genuinely positive information to post of course. But dragging up and old google link you can find with a positive spin just because you don’t like the news is burying your head in the sand.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Do they? Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself.

If you’ve got genuinely positive information to post of course. But dragging up and old google link you can find with a positive spin just because you don’t like the news is burying your head in the sand.

I have updated that old link, jfman.

[jfman]

August and the start of September. We weren't even in the second wave of Rona back then. Seems like a lifetime ago.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Accidentally, I posted an old item striking a more positive tone about Brexit, which is why I deleted it as soon as I noticed it. My apologies.

But I do think that all the negative gripes on here need to be balanced. It’s coming primarily from remainers, who have really taken the result of the referendum badly and find it difficult to admit that this was the will of the British electorate and we now need to make it work.

The vast majority of what you call "remainers" have long accepted the referendum result so less of the generalising please as its not their fault if the government is running into problems is it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

The vast majority of what you call "remainers" have long accepted the referendum result so less of the generalising please as its not their fault if the government is running into problems is it.

Easy get out for them.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

August and the start of September. We weren't even in the second wave of Rona back then. Seems like a lifetime ago.

So what? The arguments still stand.

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Originally Posted by denphone

The vast majority of what you call "remainers" have long accepted the referendum result so less of the generalising please as its not their fault if the government is running into problems is it.

I’m referring to those remainers who are not accepting the referendum result, Den.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So what? The arguments still stand.

The second article is headed Five reasons why even a basic EU-UK trade deal is better than nothing
Did you mean to post that as it's more in line with my views than yours.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I’m referring to those remainers who are not accepting the referendum result, Den.

I think everyone accepts the result, Old Boy. But that doesn't mean that we should stick our hands over our eyes when British industry complains about being made uncompetitive through more red tape and port delays.

Hopefully, you won't follow your great leader's lead and say "F-business". But you have de-emphasised the voice of British industry in favour of one solitary French MEP in Marine Le Pen's far-right party (your other link you supplied "for balance"). I won't.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So what? The arguments still stand.

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I’m referring to those remainers who are not accepting the referendum result, Den.

What about those who claim they have but all their posts say they haven't?