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				It’s a bad day when Nomadking can shoot you down with copying and pasting from two sources. 
			
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 ?,    I see you’re Still the model citizen, government lackey.
 
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			26-09-2020, 21:33
			
			
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				An anti-mask protest is probably going to break the rules on wearing masks tbf. 
 
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The national lock down had easied to be 'exercise as much as you want, go to work if you must, you can drive to wherever you like' by then. It wasn't quite the full national lockdown. 
			
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 It's not a full national lockdown now, so what's your point?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			26-09-2020, 21:34
			
			
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				It's not a full national lockdown now, so what's your point? 
			
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 I was replying to Pierre's point that we were in full national lockdown.
 
The quote was actually in my post.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			26-09-2020, 21:35
			
			
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				Unfortunately, I would say it's more of a normal day.   
			
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			26-09-2020, 21:36
			
			
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				Did the BLM protestors socially distance?  Did the extinction rebellion protestors socially distance - when, I might add we were in full national lockdown.  
 
The answer if you are unsure, is absolutely no, and I might add again that this type of totalitarian bollocks is partly the reason they are protesting. 
 
It seems that some protests are more equal than others. 
 
Such is the way of things these times. 
			
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 You’re having a nightmare here Pierre. Clearly the Covid situation is more precarious now, and Covid conspiracy theorists represent a far greater risk to public health than the other protests.
 
I suspect your judgement is being clouded by your view of the political motives behind each protest rather than being objective from a health perspective.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			26-09-2020, 21:36
			
			
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			There were mass gatherings that resulted in criminal damage that didn't get prosecuted. While a guy who protested to save the statues got two weeks in prison for public urination after he turned himself over.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			26-09-2020, 21:38
			
			
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				?,    I see you’re Still the model citizen, government lackey. 
 
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 A contradiction in a single post. A government lackey at the start and telling you that you lack the insight/ability to critically analyse government disinformation on the other.
 
A record, by your own standards of contradiction.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				An anti-mask protest is probably going to break the rules on wearing masks tbf. 
 
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The national lock down had easied to be 'exercise as much as you want, go to work if you must, you can drive to wherever you like' by then. It wasn't quite the full national lockdown. 
			
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 No, the George Floyd BLM protests started on 25th May.   PM announced ease of Lockdown restrictions on 23rd June.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				No, the George Floyd BLM protests started on 25th May.   PM announced ease of Lockdown restrictions on 23rd June. 
			
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 Obviously on a day when you wouldn't like them!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You’re having a nightmare here Pierre. Clearly the Covid situation is more precarious now, 
			
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 You’re Hilarious, the Covid situation is worse now, when 30 people a day are dying as opposed to the BLM protests in May when 130 people a day were dying!
 
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 Are they all “conspiracy theorists” ?  Most May just have  concerns on how the authorities are dealing with it. Concerns many people have, based on this response genuine concerns.
 
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 My judgement is on the Political response to the protests  
 
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				No, the George Floyd BLM protests started on 25th May.   PM announced ease of Lockdown restrictions on 23rd June. 
			
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 The restrictions I am taking about (exercise as much as you like, drive where you want, work if you cannot work from home) were on the 10th May. 
 
23rd of June is when he said pubs and restaurants were allowed to open on the 4th July. By then shops were already open.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You’re Hilarious, the Covid situation is worse now, when 30 people a day are dying as opposed to the BLM protests in May when 130 people a day were dying! 
 
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 As I’m sure you are aware they have changed the measure for that statistic. Also those deaths, where they were directly linked to Covid, will have related hospitalisation, and contracting Covid, at an earlier date.
 
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 Hmmm.
 I don’t see you frothing at the mouth with anger over those, or questioning how appropriate they were.  
 
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				The restrictions I am taking about (exercise as much as you like, drive where you want, work if you cannot work from home) were on the 10th May.  
 
23rd of June is when he said pubs and restaurants were allowed to open on the 4th July. By then shops were already open. 
			
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 Pierre is, as ever, being very selective.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			26-09-2020, 21:52
			
			
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			The difference is that there are now regulations on social distancing, whereas before there wasn't. They weren't arrested for simply gathering, they were arrested for not social distancing. 
 Whether a previous group of protesters were causing damage, and not being arrested is a separate issue. 
 
 
As my previous link/quote pointed out, protests ARE allowed, but they have to socially distance and submit a risk assessment.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				The difference is that there are now regulations on social distancing, whereas before there wasn't. They weren't arrested for simply gathering, they were arrested for not social distancing. 
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 Funny that, afaik, no one was arrested when the pubs were emptied at ten pm last night in London.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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