Black Lives Matter

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not that I know of - unless you mean the USA, with it’s Coca-Colonisation of the world..

Yes - I do have a country in mind that''s playing the long game.
I shan't name it but a lot of non-woke people on this thread know what I'm talking about. The clue is in the letter "A".

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Why does it have to a be a specific country or group. There is a thing called "Common Purpose". People and groups acting towards a common aim, without any interaction or coordination between them. Eg Are all the violent acts committed in the name of Islam or ISIS, only carried out at the specific request of a country or group? Or is there so much indoctrination churned out by certain countries and groups, that people act on that indoctrination all by themselves.

Could be a conspiracy, Nomad. You know, the long game.

I was right - I thought you meant Australia.

First in the 80s and 90s, taking all the bar jobs in London, now they’re all in IT and Consulting...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yes - I do have a country in mind that''s playing the long game.
I shan't name it but a lot of non-woke people on this thread know what I'm talking about. The clue is in the letter "A".

The sooner the RussiA report is published, the better.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yes - I do have a country in mind that''s playing the long game.
I shan't name it but a lot of non-woke people on this thread know what I'm talking about. The clue is in the letter "A".

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Could be a conspiracy, Nomad. You know, the long game.

Thank you for this handy phrase - it will save me typing out "paranoid tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists".

Much appreciated...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Thank you for this handy phrase - it will save me typing out "paranoid tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists".

Much appreciated...

Are you really trying to say that there isn't a massive anti-white agenda and hysteria out there?
Just one example.

Diversity trainers instructed White employees in “practicing self-talk that affirms our complicity in racism.”
“Racism is not our fault but we are responsible,” one bullet point declared.
In order to be considered “accomplices,” White employees must give up “comfort,” “guaranteed physical safety,” “expectations or presumptions of emotional safety,” “control over other people and over the land,” and “relationships with some other white people.”
White employees were also urged to give up “niceties from neighbors and colleagues,” “the certainty of your job,” and “accepting jobs and promotions when we are not qualified, including racial equity jobs.”

Originally Posted by nomadking

Are you really trying to say that there isn't a massive anti-white agenda and hysteria out there?
Just one example.

Yes, I am - what there is is a massive Fox News driven agenda and hysteria to make it seem there is an "anti-white" agenda, hoping fearful people will be willing to accept a scapegoat for all their problems, rather than questioning why they really have problems.

I agree there are some examples of over-compensation, but to inflate these occurrences to a "massive anti-white" really makes you "non-woke*" - that's like saying EDL and BNP marches are representative of the majority of people in the UK.


*thank you, Sephiroth...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, I am - what there is is a massive Fox News driven agenda and hysteria to make it seem there is an "anti-white" agenda, hoping fearful people will be willing to accept a scapegoat for all their problems, rather than questioning why they really have problems.

I agree there are some examples of over-compensation, but to inflate these occurrences to a "massive anti-white" really makes you "non-woke*" - that's like saying EDL and BNP marches are representative of the majority of people in the UK.


*thank you, Sephiroth...

1) Not just Fox news reporting it.
2) It WASN'T FOX News that uncovered it.
From the article

Christopher F. Rufo, an editor for City Journal and director of the Discovery Institute’s Center on Wealth and Poverty, said he filed a public records request regarding the training session. On Monday, he published copies of the materials distributed to employees in the session on his Twitter account.

3) The event was REAL.
4) Everything is being ludicrously blamed on White people.
Link

Countryfile has sparked a debate on racism with a story suggesting people from the BAME community feel unwelcome in the countryside.
Last night, the BBC show aired a piece fronted by Dwayne Fields in which he investigated a report by Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA).
The report, published last year, focused on how people from black, Asian or minority ethnic communities as well as white people felt the UK's national parks are very much a "white environment".
During the segment, Dwayne explained: "When I talk to people from the BAME community, it's clear that they don't view the UK countryside as somewhere that's for them.

5) "Just one example" does not meant there aren't THOUSANDS of others.
Just try searching for the term "affinity caucus".
Link

We facilitate transformational shifts between people and in communities; families, neighborhoods, schools, organizations, or religious/ spiritual spaces where there has been racialized harm and cultural conflict. We dissect whiteness and white culture and support a collective shift towards accountability, integrity and love.

From 2012.

Racial affinity group meetings, or caucuses, can be effective tools for human service agencies to address cultural responsiveness or shift their organizational paradigm toward antiracism. The development of such caucuses is seldom undertaken, however, often due to concerns about resources and the difficulty of envisioning the concrete benefits. This article describes the formation, implementation, and functioning of a White antiracism caucus, facilitated by the authors, in a large social service agency.

Link

White people and people of color each have work to do separately and together. Caucuses provide spaces for people to work within their own racial/ethnic groups. For white people, a caucus provides time and space to work explicitly and intentionally on understanding white culture and white privilege and to increase one’s critical analysis around these concepts. A white caucus also puts the onus on white people to teach each other about these ideas, rather than constantly relying on people of color to teach them. For people of color, a caucus is a place to work with their peers on their experiences of internalized racism, for healing and to work on liberation.

Link to pdf

People of color participate in affinity caucus in order to:
Provide a safe space for people of color to talk about and address experiences of
racism
Talk about racism and how it affects people of color without having to explain it to
white people
Gain tools to talk about racism
Create an alternative power base for people of color
Build relationships
Provide a space to address how internalized racism and internalized inferiority
can hold people of color and racial justice work back

White people participate in affinity caucusing in order
to:
Work through guilt, shame & other barriers that hold white people back from
engaging in race conversations and doing racial justice work
Ask questions and explore ideas that help white people learn about racism
without having to learn at the expense of people of color
Hold each other accountable for actions and behaviors
Build relationships
Gain tools to talk about racism, white supremacy and privilege
Remind white people that work needs to be done to dismantle racism every day

[richard s]

Now that the Washington Redskins has to change its name will the Kansas City Chiefs have to do the same thing.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by richard s

Now that the Washington Redskins has to change its name will the Kansas City Chiefs have to do the same thing.

They should have changed the name to 'whiteskins'. Who could possibly have objected to tbat?

They didnt have to change it, they chose to (its been on the cards for decades, not a recent thing).

[Sephiroth]

Why is this thread still running (beyond the mods' will)?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

They didnt have to change it, they chose to (its been on the cards for decades, not a recent thing).

Link

Prominent corporate sponsors FedEx, PepsiCo, Nike and Bank of America urged the team to change its name. Stores including Walmart and Target stopped selling team merchandise on their websites.
FedEx is the title sponsor of the team's stadium in Landover, Maryland, and CEO Frederick Smith is a minority owner.
More than a dozen Native American leaders and organizations wrote to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell last week demanding an immediate end to Washington’s use of the name. They said they “expect the NFL to engage in a robust, meaningful reconciliation process with Native American movement leaders, tribes, and organizations to repair the decades of emotional violence and other serious harms this racist team name has caused to Native Peoples.”

No bullying or "guns to the head" involved then? Does that count as "free will"?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Why is this thread still running (beyond the mods' will)?

We can't have the truth being exposed can we?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by nomadking

<SNIP>
We can't have the truth being exposed can we?

But it just goes round and round and round and round.
It's passé, surely.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by richard s

Now that the Washington Redskins has to change its name will the Kansas City Chiefs have to do the same thing.

I don’t believe they have any plans to do so.

[nomadking]

So who is to blame? The White police or the people who cloned the number plate?
Link

A footballer is seeking legal advice after being stopped by police and handcuffed.
...
West Midlands Police said they detained the car driver while officers carried out a search as the number plate flagged up warning markers for drugs and firearms.
"Nothing was found in the car and it’s now thought that the number plates, which sparked the suspicion, are cloned.
"Given the intelligence around potential firearms one of the officers drew a Taser. It was put away shortly after without being used," they said.

Of course, it must be the Police.

He's now considering making a formal complaint against police.