Coronavirus (OLD)

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

I can see Boris and his appeal for home workers to go back to the office falling on deaf ears.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...study-suggests

Oh dear...

“Another nail in the coffin for herd immunity”

"Herd immunity" ISN'T specific to Covid-19.


Is this the reason for those results?

Upon exposure to infectious organisms or vaccines, our immune systems quickly produce IgM and IgA antibodies, which are the earliest antibodies seen after infection or vaccination. Within weeks, the immune system begins to produce IgG antibodies. IgA and IgM antibodies are short acting and break down within a few weeks to months. IgG antibodies are long lasting, in most cases lasting for life.

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The primary immune response occurs when an antigen comes in contact to the immune system for the first time. During this time the immune system has to learn to recognize antigen and how to make antibody against it and eventually produce memory lymphocytes.
The secondary immune response occurs when the second time (3rd, 4th, etc.) the person is exposed to the same antigen. At this point immunological memory has been established and the immune system can start making antibodies immediately.

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During the first encounter with a virus, a primary antibody response occurs. IgM antibody appears first, followed by IgA on mucosal surfaces or IgG in the serum. The IgG antibody is the major antibody of the response and is very stable, with a half-life of 7 to 21 days. When an infection occurs with the same or a similar virus, a rapid antibody response occurs that is called the secondary antibody response.

An increase in the required IgG antibodies occurs with a subsequent infection. The immune system "memorises" the required antibody and produces it when needed.

In other words, a reduction is perfectly NORMAL.

[joglynne]

Coronavirus panic in Spain as 140,000 residents are ordered back into lockdown
SPANISH officials have re-introduced strict lockdown measures in a town near Barcelona following a huge spike in coronavirus cases.

As many as 140,000 residents in Lleida, in Segrià, have been ordered to stay in their homes and only leave for food or essential work. Officials have banned eat-in restaurants, weddings and meetings of more than 10 people as part of the new lockdown measures. The town is located 100miles west from Barcelona.

Seven nearby municipalities in the Segrià region have also been ordered to go back into lockdown.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...a-Lleida-Segri

*sigh*

People who have recovered from Covid-19 may lose their immunity to the disease within months

I may win the lottery next week.
We may get invaded by aliens in the next few months.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

*sigh*


I may win the lottery next week.
We may get invaded by aliens in the next few months.

Ah yes, media Buzz words that should always be treated with a truck load of scepticism.

May, Could, Possibly, Scientists say, Sources say, etc

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ah yes, media Buzz words that should always be treated with a truck load of scepticism.

May, Could, Possibly, Scientists say, Sources say, etc

Probabilty vs possibility- important not to get them confused.

It’s probable you may catch Coronavirus, it’s possible we may be invaded by aliens in the next few months - as the Government says, use your "common sense"...

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ah yes, media Buzz words that should always be treated with a truck load of scepticism.

May, Could, Possibly, Scientists say, Sources say, etc

It’s funny how our scientists are world leading and know better than the rest of the world when they are saying what you want to hear, and offer no more than guesswork when they do not.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

It’s funny how our scientists are world leading and know better than the rest of the world when they are saying what you want to hear, and offer no more than guesswork when they do not.

"Guesswork" based upon hundreds of studies of previous outbreaks. Easy to say, "well this is different", after the event.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

"Guesswork" based upon hundreds of studies of previous outbreaks. Easy to say, "well this is different", after the event.

Your point would have merit if there weren’t so many other countries doing something completely different at that time. We were the dissenting voice, not the majority.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by jfman

Your point would have merit if there weren’t so many other countries doing something completely different at that time. We were the dissenting voice, not the majority.

In February the majority said that this was just the flu and not something we needed to worry about especially not close the borders.

[Taf]

Since the smoking bans started, it seemed to be mostly the smokers who sat outside in pub gardens in all weathers. Now they want to ban smoking in pub gardens!

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Taf

Since the smoking bans started, it seemed to be mostly the smokers who sat outside in pub gardens in all weathers. Now they want to ban smoking in pub gardens!

Ironic as smokers are strangely resistant to Covid

Originally Posted by downquark1

Ironic as smokers are strangely resistant to Covid

Not so much...

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...us-and-smoking

We have seen headlines in the news such as ‘Smokers four times less likely to contract Covid-19’ and ‘MORE evidence smoking may cut the risk of coronavirus’. It would be easy to think that smoking is suddenly a good thing for your health - but it still isn’t.

Smoking could make it more likely that you will catch Covid-19 and the evidence suggests that smokers are more likely to get seriously ill from it. That’s partly because smokers touch their face and mouth more, meaning that they can become infected more easily. And smoking damages your lungs, making you more vulnerable to severe illness from respiratory diseases including Covid-19. 

A study looking at 2.4 million people in the UK who used the symptoms tracking app found that smoking increases the risk of coronavirus.

A team made up of researchers from Imperial College London, King’s College London, and ZOE – a health data company that developed a coronavirus symptom tracking app – looked at 2.4million people, of which 11 per cent reported smoking. Smokers were 14 per cent more likely to develop Covid-19 symptoms, such as a persistent cough and high temperature.

Coronavirus: Face coverings in England's shops to be compulsory from 24 July

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53397617

Wearing a face covering in shops and supermarkets in England is to become mandatory from 24 July.

Those who fail to comply with the new rules will face a fine of up to £100, the government is to announce.

The move will bring England into line with Scotland and other major European nations like Spain, Italy and Germany.

Only yesterday, Michael Gove said he did not think face coverings should be compulsory in shops in England...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Taf

Since the smoking bans started, it seemed to be mostly the smokers who sat outside in pub gardens in all weathers. Now they want to ban smoking in pub gardens!

Apparently, the plan is to ban smoking so that pubs/eating establishments can place tables/chairs outside - which will help attract more customers without exposing them to the nasty smelly harmful fumes from us annoying smokers.

It's very rare I go out anywhere now, because I found if I wanted to smoke I had to stand outside in the wind/rain/sleet/snow . . . best of luck enjoying a meal in those conditions

Shame really, me and my mates used to spend a lot of money in pubs/clubs

[Dave42]

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Face coverings must be worn in shops and supermarkets in England from Friday 24 July, Boris Johnson has announced.

Enforcement will be carried out by police, not retail staff, and anyone who does not comply will face a fine of up to £100.