Black Lives Matter

[Carth]

Under representation of single dads in council houses with 4 kids to different mothers . .


. . . rushes off to get crayons & cardboard

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Carth

Under representation of single dads in council houses with 4 kids to different mothers . .


. . . rushes off to get crayons & cardboard

Fathers 4 Justice?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Twitter drops terms master, slave and blacklist.

This is getting a little daft, are they also going to drop whitelist as well, what do you replace these with?

Etymology
Blacklist
Origins of the term The English dramatist Philip Massinger used the phrase "black list" in his 1639 tragedy The Unnatural Combat. After the Restoration of the English monarchy brought Charles II of England to the throne in 1660, a list of regicides named those to be punished for the execution of his father.
Whitelist is more recent and is just the opposite of blacklist.
The terms were not coined with any idea of race.

Could use green/red list? But does term "red" in the negative have implications for other groups and the positive use of green an bias towards non-industrial?

The claim that anti racists group make is that when black is used, it usually has negative connotations, whilst white usually has positivity associated with it and that these ideas are transferred accross to BAME people e.g. a blacklist contains bad things and a white list contains good things.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Under representation of single dads in council houses with 4 kids to different mothers . .


. . . rushes off to get crayons & cardboard

Years ago, 90% of lone parents were women, now It's about 94%.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The claim that anti racists group make is that when black is used, it usually has negative connotations, whilst white usually has positivity associated with it and that these ideas are transferred accross to BAME people e.g. a blacklist contains bad things and a white list contains good things.

Which "BAME" people? All? Some? Most? Asians? Which minor ethnicities?

Will "brown" or "Yellow" have to be banned?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Which "BAME" people? All? Some? Most? Asians? Which minor ethnicities?

Will "brown" or "Yellow" have to be banned?

It would usually be taken to refer to all people of colour (except white if you count that as a colour). I imagine that yellow would be included as it's often used as a negative term to symbolise cowardice; I can't think of any negative connotations with brown though.

In fact, whilst the catch all politically correct term to refer to people of colour used to be the term black, it changed to 'black & Asian'. A lot of people now refer to people as 'brown people', but i'm not sure if this is meant to be a more accurate description of the former term 'black' to describe skin colour, or if It's meant to be a new way to differentiate between black & Asian people.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It would usually be taken to refer to all people of colour (except white if you count that as a colour).

I imagine that yellow would be included as it's often used as a negative term to symbolise cowardice; I can't think of any negative connotations with brown though.

In fact, whilst the catch all politically correct term to refer to people of colour used to be the term black, it changed to 'black & Asian'. A lot of people now refer to people as 'brown people', but i'm not sure if this is meant to be a more accurate description of the former term 'black' to describe skin colour, or if It's meant to be a new way to differentiate between black & Asian people.

Well, exactly. It shows how ridiculous the term "BAME" is - the so-called activists trying to be inclusive to justify blowing up an outrage in the USA into a huge thing in the UK.

[Carth]

Many people argue that Black and White aren't even colours

[jfman]

Gammony pink is though.

[Carth]

. . . and apoplectic purple often shines through . . . in the right light

[Sephiroth]

If I recall correctly, the term "BAME" emerged to cover susceptibility to CV over and above non-BAMEs (must be whiteys, then).

So what's all this BAME cobblers, first introduced in post #16 by the esteemed jfman?

Per Downquark's request:

CV = Coronavirus

It’s been in use since the 70s, and has been widely used this century

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Blue"]If I recall correctly, the term "BAME" emerged to cover susceptibility to CV over and above non-BAMEs (must be whiteys, then).

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Can you rephrase. I don't understand. CV over?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Can you rephrase. I don't understand. CV over?

Original post edited. Coronavirus.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If I recall correctly, the term "BAME" emerged to cover susceptibility to CV over and above non-BAMEs (must be whiteys, then).

So what's all this BAME cobblers, first introduced in post #16 by the esteemed jfman?

Per Downquark's request:

CV = Coronavirus

I first came across the term in about 2014 and thought “hang on, they’re not going to put up with being lumped in all together, are they?”.

And I’m not whitey I’ve got a deckchair tan, thank you.

[downquark1]

Yeah BAME predates that but since they needed a politically correct way to say non-White it suddenly was everywhere. 10 years ago it was PoC in the American literature.