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				The Bluetooth approach was the BEST one, which is why so many OTHER countries want to use it. Were they in the wrong? 
			
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 What are you talking about? 
 - Both solutions use Bluetooth
 
- Apple doesn't allow apps access to Bluetooth in the background.
 
- Apple/Google came up with their own API to expose this functionality consistently across their devices in a way that does leak user data
 
- Government said No. We'll do our own.
 
- Everyone said that won't work. The government went ahead anyway
 
- Two months later it doesn't work. 
 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-06-2020, 00:03
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  OLD BOY
					 
				 
				We can see what you are up to, Andrew. You are fooling no-one. Why even mention the Conservatives when the reasons for that crisis was not due to tneir management of the economy? 
 
Can you really see Labour or the Liberals handling it better? Of course not. Look at the position we were in when Labour left office in 1979 and in 2010. All down to economic mismanagement and overspending. 
			
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 I think there's a significant degree of ineptitude at the moment that we can see is having negative impact on the economy - like the app, track and trace, late lockdown, etc. Other politicians could undoubtedly do better here. 
 
The 1980/81 and 2008/9 recessions caused a spike in UK government deficits. Whilst neither the Conservative Government in the 1980s or the Labour Government of the 2000s was perfect, these were global recessions...so the increase in debt was largely inevitable. (Less tax revenue, more social security payments.)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-06-2020, 16:19
			
			
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			Oh come on, this will give the 'Big Brother is Watching' crowd a massive boost to their claims . . .  
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...e-pub-12011686
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				On pubs, the health secretary said ministers were looking at a number of measures to ensure it is "safe" for them to reopen. 
 
This includes having to register before going for a pint.
			
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 *Pint of Mild please barman* 
*Certainly Sir, would you mind just filling in this simple form? Name, date of birth, home address, Email address, phone number and bank account details are compulsory*
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-06-2020, 17:55
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Carth
					 
				 
				Oh come on, this will give the 'Big Brother is Watching' crowd a massive boost to their claims . . .  
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...e-pub-12011686
*Pint of Mild please barman* 
*Certainly Sir, would you mind just filling in this simple form? Name, date of birth, home address, Email address, phone number and bank account details are compulsory*
   
			
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 Don't forget nationality, race, religion, sexual preferences and all that other equality stuff the government really wants to know about you...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-06-2020, 17:56
			
			
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			Dominic Cummings already has that from Facebook.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-06-2020, 18:14
			
			
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				Dominic Cummings already has that from Facebook. 
			
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 He's got nothing on me, I'm existing off the grid . . 
 
It may even surprise you to know my real name isn't Carth  . . . shhh     
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			21-06-2020, 18:23
			
			
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				He's got nothing on me,  I'm existing off the grid . . 
 
It may even surprise you to know my real name isn't Carth  . . . shhh      
			
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			21-06-2020, 18:24
			
			
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				Yet posting on it...    
			
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			21-06-2020, 18:29
			
			
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			Cue lots of claims of "they won't let us in because we're ....".
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Cue lots of claims of "they won't let us in because we're ....". 
			
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Smoking?
 
Pissed?
 
Eating our own food?
 
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				cue lots of claims of "they won't let us in because we're ....". 
			
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			21-06-2020, 20:13
			
			
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			Germany's R number up to 2.88 mainly due to an outbreak at a meat factory. Be interesting to see their response in action - testing, tracing, isolating. Does it lead to an increased regional/national outbreak or do they get it under control and new infection rates reduce to the low levels of the 11th-15th June.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Germany's R number up to 2.88 mainly due to an outbreak at a meat factory. Be interesting to see their response in action - testing, tracing, isolating. Does it lead to an increased regional/national outbreak or do they get it under control and new infection rates reduce to the low levels of the 11th-15th June. 
			
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			It strikes me that in the UK with 1300 new cases or thereabouts per day, if we allow too much assembly too soon it is a given that our R number will rise in such localities.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Spreading to that many people in what must be the space of a week, is not good. 
 
 
Going to be fun for them tracing the contacts of the 7,000 employees and their families.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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