Coronavirus (OLD)

[pip08456]

Interesting it may be but where is the evidence that the report was included in any advice SAGE gave to the Government?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Interesting it may be but where is the evidence that the report was included in any advice SAGE gave to the Government?

Indeed and if not, why not? Who justified it's exclusion and on what basis? Who set the remit of any reporting?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by downquark1

It's amazing how many people tell me they think they had the virus even though their symptoms don't match at all.

Mrs Pierre, started with a cough in Dec 2019, which ran until April 2020, it was a productive cough, ( without being too graphic) but she was coughing up white phlegm for four months. It was very bad at some points with her having trouble breathing. She had a lung cancer scan in March, she was told it might be Cop-d ( which could be anything. The scan said there was no cancer but signs of scarring due to infection. Since the scans we’ve heard sweet FA from the GP.

She is, getting better, gradually. She’s not on medication now.

Who knows what it was, but an anti-body test might help, that is what we need now.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

Indeed and if not, why not? Who justified it's exclusion and on what basis? Who set the remit of any reporting?

One would assume it was either the modelling group it was submitted to or SAGE and any decision to exclude would have been by peer review.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

One would assume it was either the modelling group it was submitted to or SAGE and any decision to exclude would have been by peer review.

One would assume... yes.

Would be interesting to see that confirmed. Also what were the specialist areas of the respective people on opposing positions. Who was setting agendas for any meeting and was there an overarching “steer”. One only has to set a series of working assumptions to change the outputs significantly.

One would hope not. As I say, it’d be interesting. If the process has failed then perhaps it needs redesigned for future emergencies.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

One would assume... yes.

Would be interesting to see that confirmed. Also what were the specialist areas of the respective people on opposing positions. Who was setting agendas for any meeting and was there an overarching “steer”. One only has to set a series of working assumptions to change the outputs significantly.

One would hope not. As I say, it’d be interesting. If the process has failed then perhaps it needs redesigned for future emergencies.

I agree but the time for that is when the inevitable inquiry happens. Meanwhile the media are doing the usual and jumping to conclusions.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I agree but the time for that is when the inevitable inquiry happens. Meanwhile the media are doing the usual and jumping to conclusions.

I'm no fan of the media during the response (see earlier post re: stupid questions and trying to get the Government to commit to arbitrary timings. Doing things in the right order, at the right time, is bett)er than throwing kids back into school for summer because 4 weeks ago we thought it might be possible and the media reframed it.

But it's important that we learn from the first wave as we gradually, and slowly, ease restrictions. I think the time for behavioural scientists has been and gone.

[tweetiepooh]

Again problems will arise between the government's national view and regional/local/personal views.

Some individuals/businesses/localities/regions will want to see restrictions eased in different ways if at all. Your view will be coloured by your experiences and expertise.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Again problems will arise between the government's national view and regional/local/personal views.

Some individuals/businesses/localities/regions will want to see restrictions eased in different ways if at all. Your view will be coloured by your experiences and expertise.

Quite true, London, Manchester, Leeds etc are in a whole different game than Tidworth, Holbeach, Ilkley, and Lanchester . . . I'd be surprised if the latter four even had a case of the virus

The next round of testing for the NHS app has been postponed as the Government considers switching to the Apple/Google solution: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52995881

I’m currently in hospital and have been since Monday, following a serious complication, thats needed urgent surgical care. And a patient sharing the same bay as us tested positive for Covid-19. I now have to self isolate for 14 days from today’s date.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I’m currently in hospital and have been since Monday, following a serious complication, thats needed urgent surgical care. And a patient sharing the same bay as us tested positive for Covid-19. I now have to self isolate for 14 days from today’s date.

Very sorry to hear that, Mick. I wish you a speedy recovery.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Very sorry to hear that, Mick. I wish you a speedy recovery.

+1

Originally Posted by Mick

I’m currently in hospital and have been since Monday, following a serious complication, thats needed urgent surgical care. And a patient sharing the same bay as us tested positive for Covid-19. I now have to self isolate for 14 days from today’s date.

Sorry to hear this awful news, Mick - hope you keep safe, and get well soon.

Take care.

[newapollo]

Originally Posted by Mick

I’m currently in hospital and have been since Monday, following a serious complication, thats needed urgent surgical care. And a patient sharing the same bay as us tested positive for Covid-19. I now have to self isolate for 14 days from today’s date.

Get well soon Mick